Sue Lieberman

But since its members are both governments and conservation organizations, if something passes, then it becomes, it's seen with a lot of respect.

Because some people think, no, no, if you have a policy, that means you might use it.

But the point is, it is being used.

So if it is being used, let's at least have guardrails that say, if you're considering it, you need to look at A, B, and C.

You need to look at the benefits.

You need to look at the risk.

And there are going to be things you don't do.

But since its members are both governments and conservation organizations, if something passes, then it becomes, it's seen with a lot of respect.

Because some people think, no, no, if you have a policy, that means you might use it.

But the point is, it is being used.

So if it is being used, let's at least have guardrails that say, if you're considering it, you need to look at A, B, and C.

You need to look at the benefits.

You need to look at the risk.

And there are going to be things you don't do.