Surya McEwen

and then kidnap us and hold us in prison in the ocean in Europe.

It was shocking.

It shows how far the Greater Israel Project goes.

A lot of people think of that project as expanding into Lebanon or Syria or Egypt or Jordan, but it's not just West Asia where Israel is wanting to expand, but it's into Europe, into America, into Australia.

And that they got us basically from the edges of Europe is rejected by people all across the political spectrum.

It's like a repulsive thing.

that they feel like they have the right to kind of go anywhere and do anything to anybody um but the consequences for that take time and um and like we will see like we're in the response to the bangabir videos and stuff we're seeing a bunch of that kind of that reaction emerge but i think that will deepen through time as well i think so too it's just it's heartbreaking because when you say consequences the first thing i thought is there won't be consequences

The flotilla movement's been going since 2008, for almost 20 years since the blockade, since the really harsh blockade on Gaza has been enforced.

It's basically like there's no contact between people in Gaza and the outside world, whether it's the families on the other side of the wall or the cages, or it's like trade by air or by land or by sea, they're totally blocked off from the world.

It's really like a concentration camp.

And since that policy was enacted, there's been groups of people who have like tried to take boats by sea and other measures as well.

But the flotilla movement's been like by sea trying to break that, break that siege and either like bring aid, but also just connect with the people who are who are totally disconnected from the world.

um and the first boats got through but since 2008 it's been a pretty harsh um treatment of anyone who tries to who tries to make it we've tried all sorts of different tactics and they've evolved through time and yeah it's it's ended up in this in this process now what we try to take lots and lots of votes

I mean, in 2010, Israel murdered 10 participants on the Mavi Marvara mission, like in international waters, which is probably the most extreme case in terms of them treating us like...

just basically having the freedom to like to kill aid workers who were trying to bring aid um the mission since then have been like the the tactic has evolved in certain ways and um and

Recently there's been a strategy of trying to build up like the institution of the movement to be able to communicate to the world in a different way.

Like for a long time it was like we would be going and begging journalists to cover the mission because it was so silenced.

And with the escalation of the genocide over the last few years, it's like the horror and the hope.

The horror has gotten so much worse.

But then there's also this situation where in places like Australia or like the English-speaking world in general, where Palestinian subjectivity has been completely silenced for decades,