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Susan Burton

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The Daily
When Anesthesia Fails and the Patient Is Cut Open

Another common anesthetic technique for a C-section is a spinal.

The Daily
When Anesthesia Fails and the Patient Is Cut Open

So a spinal goes deeper.

The Daily
When Anesthesia Fails and the Patient Is Cut Open

It works more quickly.

The Daily
When Anesthesia Fails and the Patient Is Cut Open

It offers what anesthesiologists call a denser block.

The Daily
When Anesthesia Fails and the Patient Is Cut Open

And it's what you're more likely to have if you're having a scheduled C-section.

The Daily
When Anesthesia Fails and the Patient Is Cut Open

Epidurals for C-sections, that's typically a patient who starts out intending to have a vaginal delivery, but something changes.

The Daily
When Anesthesia Fails and the Patient Is Cut Open

Often doctors will use that same labor epidural for surgery.

The Daily
When Anesthesia Fails and the Patient Is Cut Open

They'll just top it up to more fully numb you.

The Daily
When Anesthesia Fails and the Patient Is Cut Open

And it turns out that's your highest chance of feeling pain.

The Daily
When Anesthesia Fails and the Patient Is Cut Open

This study found that patients who had epidurals, 13% of those patients reported pain versus with spinals, only 4% of patients who got spinals reported pain.

The Daily
When Anesthesia Fails and the Patient Is Cut Open

Yes, that is what this study found, that those patients who use those existing labor epidurals are more likely to have pain.

The Daily
When Anesthesia Fails and the Patient Is Cut Open

But I also want to point out that there are plenty of patients who have C-sections with existing labor epidurals, and their pain is well managed.

The Daily
When Anesthesia Fails and the Patient Is Cut Open

And patients in this study reported pain, right?

The Daily
When Anesthesia Fails and the Patient Is Cut Open

We know that, but we don't know anything about how this pain was addressed.

The Daily
When Anesthesia Fails and the Patient Is Cut Open

So a patient might have felt pain and somebody might have intervened, you know, quickly and managed their pain appropriately.

The Daily
When Anesthesia Fails and the Patient Is Cut Open

Yeah, there's actually a really active effort to come up with those solutions.

The Daily
When Anesthesia Fails and the Patient Is Cut Open

So some of those solutions involve identifying risk factors for pain, like an epidural that's not working well during labor is probably not going to work well during a C-section, and maybe there should be a lower threshold for replacing it.

The Daily
When Anesthesia Fails and the Patient Is Cut Open

There are other medical solutions like that, like, okay, so this patient felt this kind of pain and at this level, like, what drugs did we give her and what does that tell us?

The Daily
When Anesthesia Fails and the Patient Is Cut Open

Another thing, most doctors have been taught to avoid putting a C-section patient to sleep at all costs.

The Daily
When Anesthesia Fails and the Patient Is Cut Open

And while doctors I spoke to emphasized that general anesthesia isn't the first choice for C-sections, there was agreement that putting a C-section patient to sleep when it's safe and necessary, that should be less of a taboo.