Susan Glasser

Look, this is a Norwellian full-scale moment.

That's a scene where the regime's chief propagandist goes on his propaganda network and shoulder pads puffing, says, arrest this man.

He's a traitor.

He's treasonous.

And

Just to connect it to our previous conversation, and I don't mean to make light of it, but it's so absurd.

We don't need to analyze this, okay?

It's literally absurd.

It's actually absurd to say that the people who are saying, please, in a time when you're being asked to push the boundaries of what is lawful, what is legal, in a time when the leadership of our country is telling our uniformed military,

that their new job that they did not sign up for is to fight the enemy within this country.

That is a radical shift in the definition of what national security is.

It is radically at odds and antithetical to what our nonpartisan military actually is designed for and what they take an oath to.

It bears reminding and repeating, and they take an oath

not to Donald Trump, but to preserve, protect, and defend the constitution of this country.

Just a final note, because it connects, I think, this question of the immigrants and this idea is the fear that's spreading in that community by design of Stephen Miller and others.

It might not have penetrated to the masters of the universe of Silicon Valley, but I think it is

for many people, starting to connect.

And I know you detect the whiff of something, and I hear you on Republicans breaking with Trump on Capitol Hill over the Epstein vote.

But for me, it is about understanding that they spread the fear, not just to the immigrants.

And my very favorite sign that I saw in the recent round of No King's protests