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Susan Saulny

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
318 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

I mean, wow, doesn't that just hit you?

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

He was unaware.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

When he was growing up eating that gumbo, he thought his mother was a white woman from Chicago that...

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

Found a good recipe, I guess.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

But he said he found the taste of her gumbo once on a camping trip along the Gulf of Mexico.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And he had no way of knowing at the time, but he was very close to where she was actually born.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And Edward and Laura, it seems that they were only able to be themselves fully in the kitchen.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And their children and grandchildren remember them spending long hours in the kitchen together.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And they would make things like red beans and rice and bread pudding and all these Southern specialties.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

Yes, people described Charles to me as having moderately brown skin without being in the sun.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

So as a result of that, he hardly ever wanted to be in the sun.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

and would wear long sleeves and long pants and hats.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And among his own children, most had fair skin, but he had one daughter with especially curly hair.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And I guess he didn't like that.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

So as a chemist by profession, he started mixing his own concoctions and different potions that he thought could straighten her hair.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And even as a little girl, he would put these things, these mixtures on her hair and try to make it straight and slick it back into a ponytail.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And the other members of her family told me they watched this and just shake their head in horror.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

Like her hair was, first of all, beautiful as it was.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And they could see that there was something painful going on inside of him that was causing him to react this way.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And it was another one of those moments that led to a deep sense of suspicion that they didn't know the whole story.