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Susan Saulny

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
318 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

Everyone had brothers and sisters, and there's so many aunts and uncles.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

I said, you know, something like, Grandpa, why don't you have any brothers and sisters?

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And he said, I do.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And that was a surprise to me.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And he said, he often spoke in little French or Creole phrases, little catchphrases.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And the one he said then was, passez blanc and c'est la vie.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

As a child, how did you interpret that?

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

It was often frustrating, but he had his reasons, I understand now.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And I think back and I wonder, how would the truth have helped a little black girl that he's trying to raise with pride and ambition change?

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

I think he was trying, just like he was trying to protect Edward, he was trying to protect me.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

So you did this thing that you had

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

Jacques de Grange came from the Alpine region of what is now southeastern France.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And he prospered almost immediately selling wine in New Orleans.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And prior to this reporting, I didn't know much about him.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

What we found was he came to America and did well and almost immediately enslaved women and children.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And his son went on to be one of the first men to volunteer to fight in the Civil War.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

So what I learned that I hadn't known was that my family on the French side, they were diehard defenders of the Confederacy.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

They weren't just in New Orleans and sort of going along for the ride.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

They were very much a part of the active fight for the South.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And the extent of that had never been clear to me.