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Susan Saulny

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
318 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And so by the time Minerva was born, she grew up in a family that owned its land outright instead of having to be sharecropping or, you know, or worse.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

So she had the benefit of some education and a solid foundation, some stability in life when she decided to move to New Orleans where she met Ned DeGrange.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

A terrible turn of events for these children who had been a happy family in Treme at their mother's cottage on North Robertson Street, knowing their mother and their father.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

Yeah, Minerva's death caused everything to spiral.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

Ned was all of a sudden alone with four black children in a city with segregated housing.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And this is around 1912.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

He turned to an order of Catholic nuns in the French Quarter who ran orphanages, and he proposed they take the children as boarders.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

Now, I can't imagine the tears, the trauma, the screaming that must have been involved when these kids who had lived a happy family life with their mother and sometimes their father at a cottage in Treme were suddenly handed over to an orphanage.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And the youngest two were quite little, the youngest maybe just a little more than two.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

So to be institutionalized at what was called an orphan asylum, just the cruelty of it, the awfulness of it.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

Honestly, once I realized what the place was called, that it was the Lafon Orphan Asylum for Colored Boys, my stomach turned.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

So not in these terms.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

He told me that after his mother died, he went to live with the sisters.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And he put it in very gentle terms.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And being a kid, I thought, oh, with the sisters, like in The Sound of Music or something like that.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

That couldn't have been farther from the truth, right?

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

The orphanage was pretty grim.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

He didn't tell me the full story.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

No one did.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And again, I think this was an effort on his part, if I can speculate for a moment, to not pass on his pain and trauma to a new generation.