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Susan Saulny

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
318 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

In fact, it was just the opposite that happened.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

My aunt said that he was told in those uncertain terms to never show his face around there again and, you know, to get off the property.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

I wanted to show that these two men were basically the same in terms of upbringing and DNA, right?

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

But for a bit more time in the sun, the difference of color that for anyone might just be a dark suntan, they had completely different lives because one could be classified as white,

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And the other as black.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And I was hoping that by laying out the very stark contrast, the arcs that their lives took, I could help show how arbitrary and absurd it is to sort people by race and color.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

Right.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

Well, I was nervous going into that because, you know, I was raised by Grandpa George and that little voice was still in the back of my head saying, leave well enough alone.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

But I thought, you know, if I could talk to you, Grandpa, I would tell you that the world is a different place and that this might be the time to do this.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

I have a feeling it is.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

So I walked into the restaurant, and I looked around.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

I asked the hostess if the de Granges were there, and I'm trying to figure out who they are.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And I see three women who are already, like, zeroed in on me.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

They're looking like they recognized me before I recognized them.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And once I laid eyes on them, I knew immediately as well.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

One of the cousins sitting there says, Oh, she's with us.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And she tells the hostess,

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

Because there was something about us that just seemed cousinly, for lack of a better word.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

Yeah.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

They reminded me of people I knew from home, like every one of them.