Susannah Batley

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230 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard May 2026 last heard 22 Jul

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Shared Lunch · "Wealth doesn't come from wages” · 22 Jul 2026 podcast

Because wealth development does come from that.

You know, a wage is fixed.

It's, you know, it doesn't have that upside that ownership and, you know, shares or, you know, in the past property.

I think that for when people are thinking about their long term wealth, it is really important to make sure that you are participating in that upside somehow.

I mean, concentration risk is one.

You know, if you're working for that employer and you're getting shares as part of your remuneration too, you're pretty tied in and pretty concentrated to that opportunity.

I don't think that's necessarily a reason not to do it, but it is just going in eyes wide open.

That would be one that I'd be thinking about.

And I also think that

liquidity risk as well like really thinking about you know when the timing of that what needs to happen in order for me to actually get paid cash and for this paper value to turn into cash which ultimately at some point in time it needs to do for that to be the reward that you want it to be.

I think that's such an important point and I think it does change you when you become an owner and really changes the mindset that you have.

And what's really interesting is at Sharesies when we've sometimes done customer interviews, their employee equity scheme is often their first foray into ownership outside of their KiwiSaver.

And so it can be really the start of a journey of wanting to become an owner and thinking about capital markets in a whole different way than they had contemplated before.

It's like a gateway drug, but in the best way.

I think in 10 years what I would want is this really to be the expectation for employees that their remuneration does include ownership and that that expectation is on employers as well.

Is that actually if I want to attract and retain the best talent, then employee equity has got to be part of that mix.

I also think that over the last decades, we've seen this massive gap in terms of capital markets growing, but that being shared by far too fewer people and it not being translated into higher wages necessarily.

And I think, if anything, that's actually going to increase with AI.

And I think that we're going to see a wider gap between returns accruing to owners versus returns accruing to wage earners.

And so I think it's actually going to be even more important for people to really think about how do I participate in the markets?

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