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Susie Dent

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
224 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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No Such Thing As A Fish
No Such Thing As A Ham Bag

It wasn't a wife.

No Such Thing As A Fish
No Such Thing As A Ham Bag

We're still speaking.

No Such Thing As A Fish
No Such Thing As A Ham Bag

So how do we know?

No Such Thing As A Fish
No Such Thing As A Ham Bag

Spelling and sound evolved centuries ago.

No Such Thing As A Fish
No Such Thing As A Ham Bag

Well, we know because we can interpret from rhymes quite a lot.

No Such Thing As A Fish
No Such Thing As A Ham Bag

And we literally are just sort of sifting through evidence to try and work out how they were pronounced at the time because, as you say, we didn't have audio.

No Such Thing As A Fish
No Such Thing As A Ham Bag

But even then, they didn't have the International Phonetic Alphabet or anything.

No Such Thing As A Fish
No Such Thing As A Ham Bag

So even then, we wouldn't have been able to interpret.

No Such Thing As A Fish
No Such Thing As A Ham Bag

They could have said, you know, cat as in cart or something.

No Such Thing As A Fish
No Such Thing As A Ham Bag

But we wouldn't know how cart was pronounced at this time.

No Such Thing As A Fish
No Such Thing As A Ham Bag

So a phonetic glossary wouldn't know.

No Such Thing As A Fish
No Such Thing As A Ham Bag

Well, one theory is that the Black Death was just shuffling everyone around, and people were migrating more towards London, and Londoners were more fashionable and more elite, or that the French were more elite, so we copied them.

No Such Thing As A Fish
No Such Thing As A Ham Bag

The printing press kind of came along mid-shift.

No Such Thing As A Fish
No Such Thing As A Ham Bag

So the printing press did more than anything to sort of solidify spelling, or not solidify it, but to standardize spelling, thanks to Caxton, because before that was completely chaotic.

No Such Thing As A Fish
No Such Thing As A Ham Bag

But the sound changes kept happening.

No Such Thing As A Fish
No Such Thing As A Ham Bag

So we are still typing as they were in the 15th century, but we sound much later.

No Such Thing As A Fish
No Such Thing As A Ham Bag

Well, we might do.