Suz Hinton

And so for me, I was, you know, when you grow up as a cisgender woman, you are told that your power is in your looks. So I don't know if I looked up to anyone specifically and wanted to be them. But I remember just thinking, like, I would probably not be treated as poorly as I was if... you know, if I looked more like Britney Spears or something like that. Yeah.

And so for me, I was, you know, when you grow up as a cisgender woman, you are told that your power is in your looks. So I don't know if I looked up to anyone specifically and wanted to be them. But I remember just thinking, like, I would probably not be treated as poorly as I was if... you know, if I looked more like Britney Spears or something like that. Yeah.

So, sorry, that was a very disappointing answer, but I just, honestly, I don't remember if I, if there was anyone who I wanted to be.

So, sorry, that was a very disappointing answer, but I just, honestly, I don't remember if I, if there was anyone who I wanted to be.

I just think that everyone has their own idea of what would give them power and how to actually get there. And I think power is a lot of different things, right? It's the ability to influence and, So, yeah, like I just think that people latch onto a certain form of power that they want and they think that they have a chance of sort of being able to acquire.

I just think that everyone has their own idea of what would give them power and how to actually get there. And I think power is a lot of different things, right? It's the ability to influence and, So, yeah, like I just think that people latch onto a certain form of power that they want and they think that they have a chance of sort of being able to acquire.

But yeah, I think, you know, when you're a teenager, you. You're not quite moved out. You're not quite, you know, a kid anymore. And you're trying to have more control over your life and you're trying to establish your identity and things like that. And I think that's a very influential time and formative time.

But yeah, I think, you know, when you're a teenager, you. You're not quite moved out. You're not quite, you know, a kid anymore. And you're trying to have more control over your life and you're trying to establish your identity and things like that. And I think that's a very influential time and formative time.

And I think that's where you sort of really start thinking about power in a grown-up way as well and how to acquire that power. Yeah.

And I think that's where you sort of really start thinking about power in a grown-up way as well and how to acquire that power. Yeah.

It's more accessible, I think. Yeah. I think it feels more achievable. Like you cannot be what you cannot see. And I think if you see regular people, even Justin Bieber and Billie Eilish, right? Oh, they had a SoundCloud or whatever. Right. That's how they blew up. I think that that story now just feels much more accessible than the moving to LA thing. I think you've got something there.

It's more accessible, I think. Yeah. I think it feels more achievable. Like you cannot be what you cannot see. And I think if you see regular people, even Justin Bieber and Billie Eilish, right? Oh, they had a SoundCloud or whatever. Right. That's how they blew up. I think that that story now just feels much more accessible than the moving to LA thing. I think you've got something there.

I do, but I'm a tiny bit younger than you. So I do. It was more... NSYNC. Yeah, Backstreet Boys, NSYNC. Yeah. What is it? 98 degrees, 90 something degrees. Oh, yeah. 98 degrees. Blue. Do you remember blues? The UK guy?

I do, but I'm a tiny bit younger than you. So I do. It was more... NSYNC. Yeah, Backstreet Boys, NSYNC. Yeah. What is it? 98 degrees, 90 something degrees. Oh, yeah. 98 degrees. Blue. Do you remember blues? The UK guy?

No, no, no, not I-465. There was a UK group called Blue. But anyway, but I do remember like Wham as well. And like, so I'm an 80s girl. So I do remember a lot of that stuff. It's just by the time I was sort of at that impressionable sort of, you know, like tween stage, it was Backstreet Boys and things like that.

No, no, no, not I-465. There was a UK group called Blue. But anyway, but I do remember like Wham as well. And like, so I'm an 80s girl. So I do remember a lot of that stuff. It's just by the time I was sort of at that impressionable sort of, you know, like tween stage, it was Backstreet Boys and things like that.

Yeah, so I was a little bit just like, that was such a tongue-in-cheek moment in the podcast that I didn't realize it was going to become like this big thing and part of the title and everything. No, honestly, I went through the bachelor degree to get my cybersecurity diploma and mostly because I just wanted like a curated curriculum, right?

Yeah, so I was a little bit just like, that was such a tongue-in-cheek moment in the podcast that I didn't realize it was going to become like this big thing and part of the title and everything. No, honestly, I went through the bachelor degree to get my cybersecurity diploma and mostly because I just wanted like a curated curriculum, right?

Because I tried to learn cybersecurity before that and it was just, it's so broad and so deep, you know, it felt like, Yeah, it just felt like sort of starting again. And so I went through that degree program, just really, really enjoyed it, to be honest.

Because I tried to learn cybersecurity before that and it was just, it's so broad and so deep, you know, it felt like, Yeah, it just felt like sort of starting again. And so I went through that degree program, just really, really enjoyed it, to be honest.