Suz Hinton
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I think there's a lot of job security in it because depending on the role you're in, because like it's going to be whack-a-mole forever. There's always going to be hackers and it's impossible to release code without vulnerabilities. There's always going to be those kinds of things, right? And so it is really good job security in a depressing way.
I think there's a lot of job security in it because depending on the role you're in, because like it's going to be whack-a-mole forever. There's always going to be hackers and it's impossible to release code without vulnerabilities. There's always going to be those kinds of things, right? And so it is really good job security in a depressing way.
And there is a lot of money in it if you specialize. There's a lot of really great career opportunities that, again, sometimes it can feel like you're actually doing something important as well. I think that the feeling of, again, it depends on the role you're in, but feeling like you are preventing citizen data from being breached.
And there is a lot of money in it if you specialize. There's a lot of really great career opportunities that, again, sometimes it can feel like you're actually doing something important as well. I think that the feeling of, again, it depends on the role you're in, but feeling like you are preventing citizen data from being breached.
Like if you work on the defense side, even the pen testing side, you're helping companies, you know, lock down their systems better. I think there's a lot of reward in it, even if it can be a bit of a depressing industry to be in because you see a lot of stuff you can't unsee and it does make you feel more worried about just how vulnerable a lot of systems are.
Like if you work on the defense side, even the pen testing side, you're helping companies, you know, lock down their systems better. I think there's a lot of reward in it, even if it can be a bit of a depressing industry to be in because you see a lot of stuff you can't unsee and it does make you feel more worried about just how vulnerable a lot of systems are.
It can be incredibly rewarding, I think, because I think some of the jobs are a bit more tangible. You're not just shipping things to make more sales, right? Yeah. which I've done in previous jobs. I've worked for a shoe retailer and it's like, yay, we made more money this quarter. Woo. You know, it's just, that's not very fulfilling for some people, including myself.
It can be incredibly rewarding, I think, because I think some of the jobs are a bit more tangible. You're not just shipping things to make more sales, right? Yeah. which I've done in previous jobs. I've worked for a shoe retailer and it's like, yay, we made more money this quarter. Woo. You know, it's just, that's not very fulfilling for some people, including myself.
Whereas if you're like, I helped develop this tool that kept out the hackers or I pen tested this company and now they're going to be in a much better security position. Like that just feels a bit more tangible and a bit more rewarding that you're actually helping add some good in the world.
Whereas if you're like, I helped develop this tool that kept out the hackers or I pen tested this company and now they're going to be in a much better security position. Like that just feels a bit more tangible and a bit more rewarding that you're actually helping add some good in the world.
Yeah, it's so crunchy. It definitely depends on where you're at. And a pretty depressing example of that too is if you're in forensics, there are a lot of really nasty stuff that you can have to sift through in forensics. You know, it's the same as content moderation. You're seeing similar things.
Yeah, it's so crunchy. It definitely depends on where you're at. And a pretty depressing example of that too is if you're in forensics, there are a lot of really nasty stuff that you can have to sift through in forensics. You know, it's the same as content moderation. You're seeing similar things.
And so I'm really interested in forensics, but I don't think that I, again, if I can't watch Mr. Robot or if I can't watch scary movies, there's no way that I can work in forensics without feeling psychological damage from that and it affecting my mental health. So cybersecurity has a lot of mental health problems just because of the nature of how things are really messed up.
And so I'm really interested in forensics, but I don't think that I, again, if I can't watch Mr. Robot or if I can't watch scary movies, there's no way that I can work in forensics without feeling psychological damage from that and it affecting my mental health. So cybersecurity has a lot of mental health problems just because of the nature of how things are really messed up.
And I think that it's a tech community too. So it has its own sort of toxic parts, which we're all familiar with in coding communities as well, right? There's just, yeah, I think that tech has a lot of immaturities that still, you know, haven't resolved as well as they could. And so I see very similar patterns in cybersecurity, to be honest. Yeah.
And I think that it's a tech community too. So it has its own sort of toxic parts, which we're all familiar with in coding communities as well, right? There's just, yeah, I think that tech has a lot of immaturities that still, you know, haven't resolved as well as they could. And so I see very similar patterns in cybersecurity, to be honest. Yeah.
It does come with a warning, but I think given that cybersecurity is such a broad field, there are a lot of things you can do that can either keep you out of trouble or can find your niche without really being exposed to some of the darker parts of cybersecurity. But I think that's a really good point that you bring up. It's not all sunshine and rainbows, that's for sure.
It does come with a warning, but I think given that cybersecurity is such a broad field, there are a lot of things you can do that can either keep you out of trouble or can find your niche without really being exposed to some of the darker parts of cybersecurity. But I think that's a really good point that you bring up. It's not all sunshine and rainbows, that's for sure.
And you can ruin your hobby if you're not careful. I think that if I did pen testing as a hobby... it would be way more fun than doing it professionally, such as like bug bounty, right? Like you can make quite a bit of money from bug bounty. If you find a particularly bad vulnerability, you can have a $10,000 payout.
And you can ruin your hobby if you're not careful. I think that if I did pen testing as a hobby... it would be way more fun than doing it professionally, such as like bug bounty, right? Like you can make quite a bit of money from bug bounty. If you find a particularly bad vulnerability, you can have a $10,000 payout.