Suz Hinton

But like, it just, I had such a nice time, but it, after five years, it really just felt like, you know, I just, I think that I go through a lot of change as a person and I think I was just ready to, you know, pull back a little bit.

But like, it just, I had such a nice time, but it, after five years, it really just felt like, you know, I just, I think that I go through a lot of change as a person and I think I was just ready to, you know, pull back a little bit.

Yeah, I know like famous is kind of this very highly contextual thing and like what we're talking about is we're all nerds and there's like we have X amount of nerds who want to interact, right, or like watch your stuff or listen to your stuff.

Yeah, I know like famous is kind of this very highly contextual thing and like what we're talking about is we're all nerds and there's like we have X amount of nerds who want to interact, right, or like watch your stuff or listen to your stuff.

So I think you two are very well poised to talk about this again and like because you do so many of these recordings too, I can imagine there are days where you're just like I just don't want to show up. I just don't want to do this at all. But it is really rude when you have people expecting you to conform in a certain way. You know, it's like that monkey dance sort of thing.

So I think you two are very well poised to talk about this again and like because you do so many of these recordings too, I can imagine there are days where you're just like I just don't want to show up. I just don't want to do this at all. But it is really rude when you have people expecting you to conform in a certain way. You know, it's like that monkey dance sort of thing.

And I think that where I was really fortunate was that because I didn't rely on it for my livelihood and, again, like I wasn't doing it for, you know, to feel like I was worthy or that I was, like, cool or anything. Yeah. it was just so easy for me to step away because, you know, as soon as it's not fulfilling in the intrinsic way for me, it was just way easier for me to walk away.

And I think that where I was really fortunate was that because I didn't rely on it for my livelihood and, again, like I wasn't doing it for, you know, to feel like I was worthy or that I was, like, cool or anything. Yeah. it was just so easy for me to step away because, you know, as soon as it's not fulfilling in the intrinsic way for me, it was just way easier for me to walk away.

And so I think I'm thankful for that, but I think people didn't really understand at the time why I did it, because I think a lot of people aspire to be popular or famous or have people say really nice things about them and, and follow them online. And I've never given a, I've just never cared about Twitter followers or amount of followers or amount of this, blah, blah, blah. And so,

And so I think I'm thankful for that, but I think people didn't really understand at the time why I did it, because I think a lot of people aspire to be popular or famous or have people say really nice things about them and, and follow them online. And I've never given a, I've just never cared about Twitter followers or amount of followers or amount of this, blah, blah, blah. And so,

And I think that some people project those values on you because they have them and they look up to you and see you as having achieved something they want to achieve. That also made me feel uncomfortable too.

And I think that some people project those values on you because they have them and they look up to you and see you as having achieved something they want to achieve. That also made me feel uncomfortable too.

And so it is a lot easier to walk away when, you know, you compare it to YouTubers who are doing it full time and they need people to watch to make the money, you know, from the advertising and things like that. And so I think that's a really hard place to be in. But, you know, it's not something that I super relate to just because, yeah, like I can kind of do what I want, if that makes sense.

And so it is a lot easier to walk away when, you know, you compare it to YouTubers who are doing it full time and they need people to watch to make the money, you know, from the advertising and things like that. And so I think that's a really hard place to be in. But, you know, it's not something that I super relate to just because, yeah, like I can kind of do what I want, if that makes sense.

It's sort of what I said before, which was like I saw my friend Nolan Lawson to do a stream of him maintaining PatchDB. Remember when the offline sort of stuff started coming up in local first and all of that. Like I have open source libraries that I maintain, but like really small, you know, like just very small activity on them because they're very niche.

It's sort of what I said before, which was like I saw my friend Nolan Lawson to do a stream of him maintaining PatchDB. Remember when the offline sort of stuff started coming up in local first and all of that. Like I have open source libraries that I maintain, but like really small, you know, like just very small activity on them because they're very niche.

Whereas, you know, PatchDB was something that was being used by a lot of large companies, but also small startups and individuals. And so watching Nolan just... you know, maintain open source in his way and go through the issues and triage them and like bug squash and stuff. Just thought it was so interesting because it was a totally different open source experience that, you know, to me.

Whereas, you know, PatchDB was something that was being used by a lot of large companies, but also small startups and individuals. And so watching Nolan just... you know, maintain open source in his way and go through the issues and triage them and like bug squash and stuff. Just thought it was so interesting because it was a totally different open source experience that, you know, to me.

And I was like, that's so cool. And I remember thinking maybe this would take a lot of the fear out of, like, I just, I was already doing public speaking and I was already finding that people were putting me on a pedestal and I absolutely cannot stand that because I think that it's very self-defeating. And if you want to do things right,

And I was like, that's so cool. And I remember thinking maybe this would take a lot of the fear out of, like, I just, I was already doing public speaking and I was already finding that people were putting me on a pedestal and I absolutely cannot stand that because I think that it's very self-defeating. And if you want to do things right,