Suzanne Leal

And I think he does, from his previous work, adolescent boys very well.

He's been a teacher.

Perhaps that putting the Iliad and the Odyssey on top of quite a complex family saga is partly because he has taught and he has written for young adults.

And perhaps there's an argument that that is why it's flagged more than it might be.

Get to his mum.

Get to part two and get to the Eastern Bloc story of a woman who leaves her homeland for Australia and the camps.

I would implore you to go that far and once, if you're me, once you're there, you're in.

I'm in too.

I think it sounds interesting.

Yes, look, I was interviewing recently at the Sydney Crime Writers Festival and for that I read The Ruin by Dervla McTiernan.

Oh, we read that one too.

And also The Escape Room by Megan Golden, and I thoroughly enjoyed both of those.

It's her first book.

It's done very, very well.

And it's a police crime story, but it's based on a cold crime from 20 years ago when a mother died.

Fast forward 20 years ago.

A son goes missing and in between time we hear about life for two children in Ireland during difficult times.

And the second novel?

The second novel is called The Escape Room by Megan Golden.

She's also Australian.