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Suzanne Maloney

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
338 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

Once the mission is finished, even if the strait is not open, we do see other actors coming to try to play a larger role, particularly the Chinese, the Pakistanis.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

Others are looking for some sort of an opportunity to end this crisis because, you know, this will impact the entire world if it plays out for weeks and months unended.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

Well, I think however this ends, it is a critical juncture.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

It is the end of American global leadership.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

It is the end or the diminishment of our partnerships and alliances that have been so critical in the post-war era to preserving stability and security and prosperity in many places.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

And what's also interesting is that the timeline for the end of this crisis is very much also influenced by the Chinese, because the president had scheduled a summit in Beijing.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

He moved that as a result of the war being a bit more protracted than he had presumably intended.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

But that new date for the summit in Beijing is May 14th and 15th.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

And he would presumably need to have this in his rearview mirror by the time he goes to Beijing.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

And that will give all the parties a bit of a stronger hand to try to push for a solution.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

But it will not be a solution that will probably be driven by the United States at this point in time.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

President Trump went into this war without a plan for the day after, not even a plan for day two or three of the war.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

And what we now see is that, you know, the rest of the world is going to have to pick up that mantle and try to drive toward a solution for this crisis, because if it continues, it will have absolute catastrophic impact.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

I think that's correct.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

I don't see a victory in real terms at the end of this crisis.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

We may be able to extricate ourselves without even more catastrophic human losses than have already been experienced.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

But there is very little evidence that we're going to be able to come out of this war with a different regime in Iran, with less control over the Strait of Hormuz.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

And that is a very dangerous outcome for the long term.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

The wider implications of

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

the United States having undertaken this action in a way that alienated partners and allies in the region and all around the world and effectively ceded huge financial benefits to the Russians and potentially ceded some diplomatic opportunity to the Chinese.