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Suzanne Maloney

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
343 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

Everything from our televisions to our cars could be impacted as a result of this.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

So, you know, Prime Minister Modi in India compared this to effectively COVID and the pandemic and the impact on global supply chains.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

I think that that is a very apt comparison, particularly if this extends over the course of another month or so.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

Yes, I think that's exactly right.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

And from the Iranian perspective, they now believe that they have survived this war.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

The regime was not taken down, even though Ali Khamenei, the individual who had been the supreme leader for 37 years, was killed on the first day of the war.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

and a number of other senior figures have been eliminated.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

And we see this happening on an ongoing basis.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

But if regime change was one of the goals of the war from the Trump administration, and of course, this was something that President Trump's first messages around this war really highlighted.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

Iranians now believe that they have been able to survive and that the regime itself, despite having been grievously wounded, will remain intact.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

That is something that is also quite a threat for their neighbors.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

And so we do see this, I think, debate happening both in public and certainly in private between the United States and some of its regional partners, the United Arab Emirates, the Saudis, the Qataris and others, who are very concerned about being left with a wounded Iranian.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

embittered and emboldened Iran on their doorstep.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

An Iran that still has managed to preserve its missiles and its drones and its capability to fire on its neighbors.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

And also, by the way, has some stockpile of highly enriched uranium, perhaps buried under the ground in Isfahan, perhaps dispersed at other sites.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

And whatever restraint they had around their nuclear program,

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

is likely to be eliminated as well in the aftermath of this crisis.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

We may see a regime that would be looking to move very quickly to nuclear weapons capability.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

Well, the Iranians would like compensation for the suffering and the economic losses that they've experienced during the war.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

They would like to retain some control over the Strait of Hormuz and effectively continue to monetize their ability to determine who and what might pass through this particularly strategic waterway.