Suzette Brooks Masters

And I think figuring out how you link or how you can defang individualism so that somehow we allow room for true solidarity and collective thinking, that's the nut to crack in the US.

Because we don't have a strong tradition

of collectivism right we we are the cheapest least generous country when it comes to providing a floor for people and we take advantage of that by having lower taxes right but then every time there's a you know an expense and then you have to pay health care

Right.

Exactly.

We're just like draining people of any kind of supports.

And it's become this very Darwinian kind of a society, you know, where, you know, if you can't do it, well, tough, you know, you're just going to have to deal with it.

Right.

It's just so soulless and ungenerous.

And I mean...

Maybe at some point it will become so apparent that we are doing so little for people that that's what engenders the rebellion.

I don't know.

But we just keep taking things away from people to give them that security that there is, you know, some sort of a floor beyond which society will not allow people to drop further.

Right.

And

I don't know.

I don't know if that makes any sense, but that's sort of what I'm thinking about.

Good ancestor, some sort of a survivable, dignified life, regardless of your abilities.

Pluralism.

Correct.