Suzette Brooks Masters

Now that I'm a grandmother, you know, thinking about what does the world look like where my granddaughter is not going to be receiving the the dregs of what our generations has, you know, pilfered.

But, you know, that we're actually making decisions today that are going to enable her to thrive in a world, you know, 50 years from now.

Right.

That is absolutely not how we make policy today.

But there are glimmers of hope, which maybe we can get into later, that frankly are coming mostly out of Europe in terms of thinking about what does it actually look like to institutionalize

ways of thinking about the future that don't hurt future generations.

Because there's such a bias in favor of us hoarding whatever there is to hoard right now for the benefit of the people alive today.

Some of the people alive today.

With no regard for what that means for the future.

Sure.

So I do think they're the beginnings of these structures, these the well-being economy alliance, you know, different clusters of people and occasionally getting hits in in actual places where people are trying to implement exactly what these better worlds could look like.

And.

So I think we're in this era of great ferment where ideas that were considered really fringe are now getting more purchase because people are acknowledging that the system is so broken.

There's no pretending that it's working.

Right.

Right.

And I think that's where I find the hope is that nobody believes these systems are working well now.

It doesn't matter what side of the political spectrum you're on.

And so the question is, whose vision is going to win?

Is it the fascist version or some other version?