Sydnee Washington

We love it. Hello. Everybody loves mess. Even if you don't love our mess, you love somebody else's mess.

But I'm going to tell you one thing. We are certified in bringing our own mess for sure. For sure. Your own mess first before other people's mess? I mean, we like to talk about our personal mess up top, you know, just to, you know, make the room comfortable so that they can share their mess.

To break the ice, if you will.

I think I contain multitudes.

I think initially I'm a lover, but there's some hate in my heart. I'm not going to lie.

I identify with Hunter. I start with hate and then underneath is some love. Yeah. Yeah.

Big artist way over here. Okay.

Yeah. I think ultimately I love messy people because, I don't know, there's something very free and beautiful about this. You know?

Yeah. Because I see people who have it all together, right? And it's inspiring, right? But then when you talk to them, you're like, okay, what else? What else? Everything that you wrote down, you did. Nothing went wrong. You got there on time. You got the job. You got the, like, no, I need something in between. Something to shake it up, shake the table, shake the room, something.

Oh, we do things where we'll have a conversation and Sydney be like, this is so good. I wish we were recording right now. Or I'll say something and she'd be like, write that down for the pod. I'm not writing anything down.

And even if I did write something down, I don't remember where I wrote it.

I like to scribble things on the back of envelopes and then lose the envelopes.

Yeah, we don't want to make anything or feel like something is forced. So if it happens, it happens. We're very in the moment people. So we don't like to plan. It's just going to happen for sure.

I'm a Libra.

Oh, like our own mess or Sydney's mess from my mouth and my mess from her mouth. The second. Yeah. Her mess from your mouth. Yes. Yeah. I want to hear this, Marie. Come on. Give it to me, girl. Give it to me. Okay. I'll give you Sydney's mess. Ready? So say it with your chest. Yeah. Sydney is everybody's friend. Everybody is friends with Sydney. Sydney knows everybody's business. Sydney cares.

She remembers stuff that people told her in 2010. It's crazy. I don't think anybody has more friends in the world than Sydney. And for me, I think it's messy because it's like, how do you keep up with all these people's lives? How do you keep up with all these people's information? But also, I think Sydney has a lot of people that she can kind of share her stuff with.

So I don't get all of the Sydney that y'all think that I get. Sydney has a lot of different friend groups that they get like, a little bit of this, a little bit of that, a little bit of this, a little bit of that. And then I, you know, I get, I get work, funny, messy, mean Sydney. Marie don't even know me y'all. I barely know you for

real friend wait Marie if anything I'm my most me with you yeah but I also am like I have all these other people so that I'm not putting all my my shit on you that's I'm actually doing you a favor friend oh no and I'm not mad at that I appreciate you having other people that you can like

dump on and then I get you know this but I just for me it's messy because I can't care about that many people I can't remember you know what I mean like Sydney's the type of person you tell her something and she'll remember you she's like so how is your mom doing after the surgery and I'm like how do you know anything about her mom

No, I love it.

It was the cyst cancerous. I'm like, how do you know? Ooh, girl, I'm crying over here. Crying. But did I lie? Lashes falling off. Yes, you did. How? Okay. No rebuttal. I'm just going to take it. Marie, Marie, I guess the messiest thing, but it's, it could be seem, it seems as mess, but not... I don't even think it is. It's Marie is in Marie's world.

It's like, she's not thinking about the peripheral or anything. It's like, whatever's happening from that is that's the moment. And that's the thing that matters the most. And it's great. Cause she's not getting caught up in the stuff that gives people anxiety, which is, did I say something wrong? Did this happen? Did I bump into that? Did I get some light? Marie is like, Hey, it's done.

If they got something to say, they'll say it to me. And I didn't even hear them if they did say it. So it don't even matter. Marie's forgetful and she's late, but she's great. So when she's late, we not really that mad, but then people be texting me like, where is Marie? I said, do you think I know? I don't know. I am just a bestie here to finish it off. That's it. I'm not her assistant.

I have no idea.

You said, I'm not my sister's keeper. I do have her location on at all times. So I do know where she is, but I never use it. I don't use it. I only use it for good. Only for good. Wow. If she's missing, that's the only time I'm going to use it. Yeah. I would say, yeah, that's Marie's mess. But it's an even mess. It's just living. I'll tell you what I think is messy about me. Tell me.

That couldn't have been me. That doesn't sound like me. But then I hear it and I'm like, that does sound like something I would say.

This is a more complex answer. So maybe I'm Peyton Moon Hunter Rising? There we go. I think that's true.

Is she not even going to sing her own hit? Right.

Like why would Gail go if she didn't want to go? Free Wondery Plus. That's what she gets. My realest question is why did Oprah let her? I like, I'm sorry. If Marie was like, I'm going to space. I'm like, no, you're not. I'm coming with you. We're going together.

She brought the daisy in the tin can that went into space.

They kissed the ground. They left the ground for literally 10 minutes.

They are in their private jets for longer than they went to space. Is going to space mess? Is space messy? Is it space if you can still kind of see the earth like right below you? Like you have to look out the window and see land still. Am I just like, I don't even know how high planes fly, but I feel like they were right above that.

Yeah, yeah. That's what it was giving to me.

All I gathered from it is like, y'all got too much money. Y'all gots to get, y'all have. You know what's better than space? Being poor. Why don't you live on that? If you really want to shake your life up, give up your money. Give it to the, you know, let me say this. And then just be a pedestrian.

I thought they were going to go to the moon. Like I thought, oh, they're going to space. They're going to go to the moon and like, I don't know, put another flag up or maybe she could put her daisy down.

I don't know. I think next time they send some women to space, all the women in the world should get to vote. Who goes? You know? Oh, so we do like a little poll, you know, like an Instagram poll. Who do we want to see next in space? Yeah, every country sends their best.

Or they're worse. Exile Island. That's why I didn't understand why Gayle was going. I was like, Gayle, how'd you get mixed up in this? Yeah, yeah. Nobody else was ever. Candace Owens wasn't available? No.

There had to have been. I just can't understand why she wasn't able to say no. Like, were they blackmailing her? Like, does Jeff Bezos know something? Maybe.

Ooh.

This is tough.

Yes, I think we return to it a lot. Yes, yes. Oh, yes, yes. Lizzie Grubman, yes. Lizzie Grubman, yeah. She made sure education was first with me. So you know what? She's always a queen in my book. I'm like, did she even hit those people? I don't know. I wasn't there. She's my Luigi Mangione, actually. Okay, so for those of us who are not as familiar, though, what happened exactly?

Well, she was in the Hamptons, you know, litty boots, kitty boots down in her Range Rover, hit everybody coming out of the club, called the cops and people white trash. Her dad is a big time entertainment lawyer. Obviously, she got out of it. And then I was an intern at her PR company. And, you know, I flunked out one season, one season of college.

And she I had to pay this amount of money to get back in because my family didn't have it. And she paid. So.

Yeah. Yeah, she didn't do it. She gave back. She gave back to the community, yes.

Free Lizzy.

Favorite piece of celebrity mess lore? I don't know, something maybe Kardashian related, I think is maybe mess. You know, the fact that maybe Ray J was a bigger star at the time and now nobody even knows how to spell Ray J. And he's turned that family into a bunch of billionaires. I think that's pretty messy.

Whoa. Yeah. I mean, no, Mike was on brother. He was Brandy. He was Brandy's brother.

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