T.J. Holmes

Hey there, folks.

It is Friday, January 16th, and when you hear that a woman was stabbed more than 20 times, but her death is ruled a suicide, you're going to have questions.

But now, here we are, 15 years after the death of Ellen Greenberg, the federal government seems to have some questions about this, too.

Finally...

And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ.

Fascinating case.

That's the first question.

How is it possible that someone who was stabbed 20 times, you're going to tell me that's a suicide?

To anybody with common sense, that just doesn't make sense.

Now, you're curious and you want to hear some more answers, and we'll get into some of the back and forth, but one medical examiner ruled it a homicide and comes back and said a suicide, and then another group says, no, we think it's a suicide, and another group says... So there's been a lot of back and forth.

The official ruling, we should say, is in fact that she died by suicide.

There has, at least as far as I have seen, Robes, never actually had a suspect, never had anybody under investigation before.

in this case, including the fiance.

And you have to ask, why?

Why now?

And if you're not looking into the actual death, why are you looking into the investigation of her death?

So this looks like they're looking into—this is a corruption probe.

Right?

So why that?

Now, for the family, you have to go, okay, if this came across their desk, what else is coming?