Tahlia Isaac

Like, you know, and sit down and have these conversations with people.

Like if you go to prison, it's going to be really hard to get a job.

You might not be able to travel to some countries.

you know, your whole life's ahead of you.

Like this is not your whole life, like some sort of intervention, but like no one, the only conversation I had was with my lawyer who went, you're going to prison.

And I was like, oh, okay then, sure.

Like, all right then, well, I better make it a good one.

Like, I don't know.

I just think there is a responsibility.

And if people still choose to go down that path, because we ultimately can't make people change, right?

We can't make people change.

In any intervention, people have to choose.

And then at least you have like a whole picture choice.

You know, I didn't have a choice.

They're going, you're getting, go out, get out of here, get out of the court.

And like, what's my choice?

I have to return the hire car.

I also owe people money now.

Yeah.

And it's, you know, you're kind of forced into- It's almost like the system's overwhelmed with it.