Tamara Holland

That's such a good tip, Tam.

And they're affordable.

A lot of them are very affordable too.

Lucinda, I know you have a bit of a hack for us when it comes to layering for winter.

This is something that you personally are very good at.

So I want to know the tips and tricks.

Help us out.

Okay.

Yes, it gives a level of detail and attention to an outfit, especially the white.

Something about throwing the white onto your face or lightening up the top of your outfit.

I'm seeing a bit of that actually now, like layered T-shirts and things with a white longer tee underneath and then a shorter sleeve tee over the top.

Yes, yes.

Love.

It's just, it looks more intentional.

And that's sometimes that's the difference.

It's ironic how the word effortless, like an effortless outfit actually usually requires the most effort to look that way.

Like, you know, that cool girlie on TikTok or Instagram that's just thrown her shirt around her waist with this perfect blazer on.

Like, that's not effortless.

That's effortful.

And there's no shame in that.