Tamara Keith

Is this inevitable at this point or do either of you see an off ramp?

All right.

Well, let's leave it there for today.

We will definitely be following this closely.

I'm Tamara Keith.

I cover the White House.

And thank you for listening to the NPR Politics Podcast.

Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast for Monday, January 26th.

I'm Tamara Keith.

I cover the White House.

And we also have with us Minnesota Public Radio's Clay Masters.

Hi, Clay.

And today on the show, federal agents shot and killed another American in Minneapolis over the weekend.

37-year-old Alex Preddy was an intensive care unit nurse at a VA hospital.

He was using his phone to film ICE agents.

When the situation rapidly escalated within seconds, half a dozen masked agents were pinning him to the ground face down, and then he was shot in the back multiple times.

Clay, we know this because there was video, a lot of it.

What more can you tell us about what happened?

Federal officials, including the Homeland Security Secretary, say that he brandished it, that he brought it.

aiming to do maximum harm.