Tamara Keith

And this is a leverage point.

A government funding bill is a leverage point.

Sam, ICE and other immigration enforcement got a huge amount of money last summer in the one big beautiful bill act, President Trump's big signature accomplishment.

So how does this fit with that?

Like withholding funding from Homeland Security, would immigration enforcement really be affected by this fight?

I guess a question I have here is, why not just separate out the Homeland Security funding and then pass everything else?

And then it wouldn't be such a major disruption.

So, Sam, you said that Republicans at this point are not willing to separate out the Homeland Security bill.

Are they offering anything to Democrats?

I mean, certainly there have been a number of Republicans in the last 48 hours or so who have voiced concerns about the tactics being used by ICE and other immigration agencies.

Yeah, I mean, I guess this is the part where we talk about trust.

And there's not a lot of it between the White House and congressional Democrats at this point.

The White House has repeatedly done things like say that they don't actually have to do what Congress says.

That has caused Democrats to question whether any deal would be worth the paper it's written on.

So how do they work through that?

Yeah.

I mean, the thing that just really stands out to me here is

A week ago, we were not talking about a partial government shutdown.

A week ago, it seemed like things were almost working and just how quickly that has changed.

Sam, does anybody really want a government shutdown?