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And he's like, oh, you're crazy.

But I think he knows I'm not.

And I think he is planning for that.

And I think he's thinking about it.

So what do you think people today are getting wrong about the word reinvention?

Because I think that that word is, I think it causes people to feel a little angst every once in a while when you hear it.

That's amazing.

Really?

Yeah, I think it is too.

And what you were saying about the world being set up and all these older people, you know, I don't know if the world's ready for that.

So we have to move even faster to help that conversation, that narrative, and normalizing all of it.

So you spent a long time as president of Hearst Magazine.

Right.

And then moved into, you know, and pivoted into this next chapter of your life.

And I think you and I both talked about stepping away from, you know, the chair, right?

And I stepped away from the anchor desk after a 15-year career in New York, 30-year overall.

There's nothing but, you know, I remember, but, oh, my God, am I doing the right thing?

Is this okay?

And what am I doing, you know, what am I doing next?

What did you learn from that chapter that you've brought into this one?