Tanya Mosley

Lisa, in your reporting, you featured a popular couple that has kind of been like rock stars in this movement, the Collins. They describe themselves as techno-Puritans. Who are they and how many children do they have and kind of what's their overarching messaging?

She dresses like a Puritan. She dresses like from another era, another time.

She dresses like a Puritan. She dresses like from another era, another time.

She dresses like a Puritan. She dresses like from another era, another time.

What do the Collins think about IVF? Did Simone Collins actually have her children through IVF?

What do the Collins think about IVF? Did Simone Collins actually have her children through IVF?

What do the Collins think about IVF? Did Simone Collins actually have her children through IVF?

I think what's so interesting about what you all are sharing is that there is like no one main pathway to... to building a greater population. There are several different segments of this movement that have varying different ideas on how to do that. Dr. Guzzo, can you talk a little bit about the three segments of the pronatalist movement?

I think what's so interesting about what you all are sharing is that there is like no one main pathway to... to building a greater population. There are several different segments of this movement that have varying different ideas on how to do that. Dr. Guzzo, can you talk a little bit about the three segments of the pronatalist movement?

I think what's so interesting about what you all are sharing is that there is like no one main pathway to... to building a greater population. There are several different segments of this movement that have varying different ideas on how to do that. Dr. Guzzo, can you talk a little bit about the three segments of the pronatalist movement?

Let's take a short break. If you're just joining us, my guests are NPR reporter Lisa Hagen and demographer, sociologist, and fertility expert Dr. Karen Guzzo. We're talking about the resurgence of the pro-natalist movement. We'll hear more of our conversation after a short break. I'm Tanya Mosley, and this is Fresh Air Weekend.

Let's take a short break. If you're just joining us, my guests are NPR reporter Lisa Hagen and demographer, sociologist, and fertility expert Dr. Karen Guzzo. We're talking about the resurgence of the pro-natalist movement. We'll hear more of our conversation after a short break. I'm Tanya Mosley, and this is Fresh Air Weekend.

Let's take a short break. If you're just joining us, my guests are NPR reporter Lisa Hagen and demographer, sociologist, and fertility expert Dr. Karen Guzzo. We're talking about the resurgence of the pro-natalist movement. We'll hear more of our conversation after a short break. I'm Tanya Mosley, and this is Fresh Air Weekend.

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Dr. Guzzo, like, do incentives work? I mean, $5,000 in this economy to have a baby?

Dr. Guzzo, like, do incentives work? I mean, $5,000 in this economy to have a baby?

Dr. Guzzo, like, do incentives work? I mean, $5,000 in this economy to have a baby?

You mentioned how these types of ideas do not work. But I was just wondering in other places and other countries, because I know that Hungary and Russia, I think even Singapore, have introduced these kinds of incentives, like tax breaks and housing benefits. I think that Hungary even offers free fertility treatments. How effective are those types of measures?