Tanya Mosley

She dresses like a Puritan. She dresses like from another era, another time.

She dresses like a Puritan. She dresses like from another era, another time.

It's really interesting where they sit politically. You mentioned that they don't necessarily consider themselves liberal, but they don't consider themselves on the far right. And they also have told you that they are pushing it back against some of those racist ideologies that historically have been a part of the pro-natalist movement. You all...

It's really interesting where they sit politically. You mentioned that they don't necessarily consider themselves liberal, but they don't consider themselves on the far right. And they also have told you that they are pushing it back against some of those racist ideologies that historically have been a part of the pro-natalist movement. You all...

It's really interesting where they sit politically. You mentioned that they don't necessarily consider themselves liberal, but they don't consider themselves on the far right. And they also have told you that they are pushing it back against some of those racist ideologies that historically have been a part of the pro-natalist movement. You all...

talked a little bit about how white nationalists are drawn to their podcast. And you actually talked to Malcolm Collins about this at the Freedom Economy Conference. Let's listen to what he had to say to you about racists and white nationalists who are drawn to the pro-natalist movement and how he's interacted with them.

talked a little bit about how white nationalists are drawn to their podcast. And you actually talked to Malcolm Collins about this at the Freedom Economy Conference. Let's listen to what he had to say to you about racists and white nationalists who are drawn to the pro-natalist movement and how he's interacted with them.

talked a little bit about how white nationalists are drawn to their podcast. And you actually talked to Malcolm Collins about this at the Freedom Economy Conference. Let's listen to what he had to say to you about racists and white nationalists who are drawn to the pro-natalist movement and how he's interacted with them.

That was Malcolm Collins, a leader in the pro-natalist movement, talking last year to one of my guests, Lisa Hagan. And Lisa, I want to point out that, I mean, of course, not all pro-natalist arguments are inherently racist, but there is a clear and well-documented overlap between the rhetoric that they used and racist, xenophobic, and nationalist ideologies there.

That was Malcolm Collins, a leader in the pro-natalist movement, talking last year to one of my guests, Lisa Hagan. And Lisa, I want to point out that, I mean, of course, not all pro-natalist arguments are inherently racist, but there is a clear and well-documented overlap between the rhetoric that they used and racist, xenophobic, and nationalist ideologies there.

That was Malcolm Collins, a leader in the pro-natalist movement, talking last year to one of my guests, Lisa Hagan. And Lisa, I want to point out that, I mean, of course, not all pro-natalist arguments are inherently racist, but there is a clear and well-documented overlap between the rhetoric that they used and racist, xenophobic, and nationalist ideologies there.

How much of that did you encounter during your reporting at this conference or more generally as you kind of like sleuth online and look at these worlds?

How much of that did you encounter during your reporting at this conference or more generally as you kind of like sleuth online and look at these worlds?

How much of that did you encounter during your reporting at this conference or more generally as you kind of like sleuth online and look at these worlds?

Dr. Guzzo, I know that you've also been following the different factions of this movement, and you've talked about some of the more religious factions against IVF and abortion. I'm thinking about some of the groups that might make up kind of the religious faction of the pro-natalist movement.

Dr. Guzzo, I know that you've also been following the different factions of this movement, and you've talked about some of the more religious factions against IVF and abortion. I'm thinking about some of the groups that might make up kind of the religious faction of the pro-natalist movement.

Dr. Guzzo, I know that you've also been following the different factions of this movement, and you've talked about some of the more religious factions against IVF and abortion. I'm thinking about some of the groups that might make up kind of the religious faction of the pro-natalist movement.

What do the Collins think about IVF? Did Simone Collins actually have her children through IVF? Yeah.

What do the Collins think about IVF? Did Simone Collins actually have her children through IVF? Yeah.

What do the Collins think about IVF? Did Simone Collins actually have her children through IVF? Yeah.