Tanya Mosley
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That sociologist that you talked to that told you like loneliness is a healthy response and that it is the thing that pushes us off the couch, out into the world, that kind of makes it sound like our phones might actually be blocking us from feeling that natural instinct. But yet people feel like they're being very social by being on their phones and being on social media sites and stuff.
That sociologist that you talked to that told you like loneliness is a healthy response and that it is the thing that pushes us off the couch, out into the world, that kind of makes it sound like our phones might actually be blocking us from feeling that natural instinct. But yet people feel like they're being very social by being on their phones and being on social media sites and stuff.
That sociologist that you talked to that told you like loneliness is a healthy response and that it is the thing that pushes us off the couch, out into the world, that kind of makes it sound like our phones might actually be blocking us from feeling that natural instinct. But yet people feel like they're being very social by being on their phones and being on social media sites and stuff.
Okay, Derek, let's talk a little bit about political polarization. I love the subtitle of this section of your piece. It's called, This is Your Politics on Solitude. How has all of this isolation, how has it changed our politics?
Okay, Derek, let's talk a little bit about political polarization. I love the subtitle of this section of your piece. It's called, This is Your Politics on Solitude. How has all of this isolation, how has it changed our politics?
Okay, Derek, let's talk a little bit about political polarization. I love the subtitle of this section of your piece. It's called, This is Your Politics on Solitude. How has all of this isolation, how has it changed our politics?
You actually say that this kind of helps explain progressive, stubborn inability to understand President Donald Trump's appeal. Say more about it.
You actually say that this kind of helps explain progressive, stubborn inability to understand President Donald Trump's appeal. Say more about it.
You actually say that this kind of helps explain progressive, stubborn inability to understand President Donald Trump's appeal. Say more about it.
You know what's so interesting about what you're saying, too, is that I feel like we were having this conversation in 2016 when there was this indictment on elite in mainstream media that like somehow the mainstream media missed this Trump wave. And from 2016 to now 2025, I mean, we're still here with this baffled, like people are baffled by the phenomenon that you're talking about.
You know what's so interesting about what you're saying, too, is that I feel like we were having this conversation in 2016 when there was this indictment on elite in mainstream media that like somehow the mainstream media missed this Trump wave. And from 2016 to now 2025, I mean, we're still here with this baffled, like people are baffled by the phenomenon that you're talking about.
You know what's so interesting about what you're saying, too, is that I feel like we were having this conversation in 2016 when there was this indictment on elite in mainstream media that like somehow the mainstream media missed this Trump wave. And from 2016 to now 2025, I mean, we're still here with this baffled, like people are baffled by the phenomenon that you're talking about.
How much of a role does media play in this issue as well?
How much of a role does media play in this issue as well?
How much of a role does media play in this issue as well?
Okay, Derek, short of some sort of apocalyptic ending of the internet that would force us to look up from our phones and at each other, what can we do to combat this?
Okay, Derek, short of some sort of apocalyptic ending of the internet that would force us to look up from our phones and at each other, what can we do to combat this?
Okay, Derek, short of some sort of apocalyptic ending of the internet that would force us to look up from our phones and at each other, what can we do to combat this?
Derek Thompson, I always really enjoy talking to you. Thank you so much.
Derek Thompson, I always really enjoy talking to you. Thank you so much.