Tanya Mosley

Can you talk a little bit more about the latest action from the National Institutes of Health, which is now capping funding for medical research at medical schools and universities. How does this impact the fight to keep infectious diseases at bay?

Our guest today is Dr. Adam Ratner. We recorded this conversation you're hearing last week about his new book, Booster Shots, The Urgent Lessons of Measles and the Uncertain Future of Children's Health. We'll be right back after this break. I'm Tanya Mosley, and this is Fresh Air.

Our guest today is Dr. Adam Ratner. We recorded this conversation you're hearing last week about his new book, Booster Shots, The Urgent Lessons of Measles and the Uncertain Future of Children's Health. We'll be right back after this break. I'm Tanya Mosley, and this is Fresh Air.

Our guest today is Dr. Adam Ratner. We recorded this conversation you're hearing last week about his new book, Booster Shots, The Urgent Lessons of Measles and the Uncertain Future of Children's Health. We'll be right back after this break. I'm Tanya Mosley, and this is Fresh Air.

One of the things that we also don't talk about a lot is faith. And what I mean by that is faith that the system will actually work for our benefit. So you actually tell a story of how the vaccine trial for polio in 55 was really a high watermark for public enthusiasm. Yes.

One of the things that we also don't talk about a lot is faith. And what I mean by that is faith that the system will actually work for our benefit. So you actually tell a story of how the vaccine trial for polio in 55 was really a high watermark for public enthusiasm. Yes.

One of the things that we also don't talk about a lot is faith. And what I mean by that is faith that the system will actually work for our benefit. So you actually tell a story of how the vaccine trial for polio in 55 was really a high watermark for public enthusiasm. Yes.

Then President Carter came into office and relied on that accumulated goodwill as they tried to eradicate some of these childhood diseases like measles. But as we move through time, I'd also love to just slow down a little bit and talk about some of those moments in the 80s and 90s that really shook our trust in government decision-making as it relates to our health and well-being.

Then President Carter came into office and relied on that accumulated goodwill as they tried to eradicate some of these childhood diseases like measles. But as we move through time, I'd also love to just slow down a little bit and talk about some of those moments in the 80s and 90s that really shook our trust in government decision-making as it relates to our health and well-being.

Then President Carter came into office and relied on that accumulated goodwill as they tried to eradicate some of these childhood diseases like measles. But as we move through time, I'd also love to just slow down a little bit and talk about some of those moments in the 80s and 90s that really shook our trust in government decision-making as it relates to our health and well-being.

I'm really curious how you manage the distrust as you interface with parents and legislators and all types of people. Because you said something earlier that I thought was really interesting. You said like once you scare the public, you can't unscare them. Like it's really hard to dial that back.

I'm really curious how you manage the distrust as you interface with parents and legislators and all types of people. Because you said something earlier that I thought was really interesting. You said like once you scare the public, you can't unscare them. Like it's really hard to dial that back.

I'm really curious how you manage the distrust as you interface with parents and legislators and all types of people. Because you said something earlier that I thought was really interesting. You said like once you scare the public, you can't unscare them. Like it's really hard to dial that back.

And that had me thinking about discredited academic Andrew Wakefield, who, as folks may know, the medical journal Lancet in 1998 published a paper from Wakefield that promoted this fraudulent hypothesis that the MMR vaccine, measles, mumps, rubella vaccine, could cause previously healthy children to develop a form of autism.

And that had me thinking about discredited academic Andrew Wakefield, who, as folks may know, the medical journal Lancet in 1998 published a paper from Wakefield that promoted this fraudulent hypothesis that the MMR vaccine, measles, mumps, rubella vaccine, could cause previously healthy children to develop a form of autism.

And that had me thinking about discredited academic Andrew Wakefield, who, as folks may know, the medical journal Lancet in 1998 published a paper from Wakefield that promoted this fraudulent hypothesis that the MMR vaccine, measles, mumps, rubella vaccine, could cause previously healthy children to develop a form of autism.

And while that has widely been discredited, it also seemed like a flashpoint as well. I learned about it as a mother in 2007. This had been discredited years before, but there was still such a debate about it, a strong debate and belief. How do you deal with that growth of mistrust in the conversations that you have with parents and others?

And while that has widely been discredited, it also seemed like a flashpoint as well. I learned about it as a mother in 2007. This had been discredited years before, but there was still such a debate about it, a strong debate and belief. How do you deal with that growth of mistrust in the conversations that you have with parents and others?

And while that has widely been discredited, it also seemed like a flashpoint as well. I learned about it as a mother in 2007. This had been discredited years before, but there was still such a debate about it, a strong debate and belief. How do you deal with that growth of mistrust in the conversations that you have with parents and others?

Not one conversation. And do you feel that you've been successful?