Tanya Mosley

That's a great question. He has written about it. And what he's written is that while he was making it, while he was getting the right interviews and the right job offers, he had this growing sense of emptiness of what am I doing it for as if he was working his butt off for a job and a life that meant nothing to him.

That's a great question. He has written about it. And what he's written is that while he was making it, while he was getting the right interviews and the right job offers, he had this growing sense of emptiness of what am I doing it for as if he was working his butt off for a job and a life that meant nothing to him.

And one day when he was still at Yale, he went to hear a talk by Peter Thiel, the billionaire venture capitalist and right-wing contrarian, controversialist. And what he said to Vance and the audience was, you are – working like crazy for meaningless jobs. You're competing with each other. It's cutthroat competition. And you'll find that it's all for a kind of taste of ashes in your mouth.

And one day when he was still at Yale, he went to hear a talk by Peter Thiel, the billionaire venture capitalist and right-wing contrarian, controversialist. And what he said to Vance and the audience was, you are – working like crazy for meaningless jobs. You're competing with each other. It's cutthroat competition. And you'll find that it's all for a kind of taste of ashes in your mouth.

And one day when he was still at Yale, he went to hear a talk by Peter Thiel, the billionaire venture capitalist and right-wing contrarian, controversialist. And what he said to Vance and the audience was, you are – working like crazy for meaningless jobs. You're competing with each other. It's cutthroat competition. And you'll find that it's all for a kind of taste of ashes in your mouth.

That's my phrase, not his. And why is this happening? Well, it's happening because our society has become stagnant and decadent. And all of our supposed technological breakthroughs, like the smartphone, are actually... very small. They're not revolutionary.

That's my phrase, not his. And why is this happening? Well, it's happening because our society has become stagnant and decadent. And all of our supposed technological breakthroughs, like the smartphone, are actually... very small. They're not revolutionary.

That's my phrase, not his. And why is this happening? Well, it's happening because our society has become stagnant and decadent. And all of our supposed technological breakthroughs, like the smartphone, are actually... very small. They're not revolutionary.

They're not changing things and instead we're becoming a stagnant society with a declining working class and this intensely competitive elite class where people are fighting for jobs that don't really mean very much to them. And all of this just hit Vance hard enough that he later wrote it was the most significant moment in his career at Yale.

They're not changing things and instead we're becoming a stagnant society with a declining working class and this intensely competitive elite class where people are fighting for jobs that don't really mean very much to them. And all of this just hit Vance hard enough that he later wrote it was the most significant moment in his career at Yale.

They're not changing things and instead we're becoming a stagnant society with a declining working class and this intensely competitive elite class where people are fighting for jobs that don't really mean very much to them. And all of this just hit Vance hard enough that he later wrote it was the most significant moment in his career at Yale.

And I think even though it didn't change his course completely, it stuck with him.

And I think even though it didn't change his course completely, it stuck with him.

And I think even though it didn't change his course completely, it stuck with him.

And he later, when he, and we could get to this, when he converted to Catholicism, he traced part of the motive back to this time when he began to feel that his values had become hollow ones, the values of the meritocracy, of an elite class that simply wanted professional success and moral and other values fell by the wayside. So yeah, it absolutely cost him.

And he later, when he, and we could get to this, when he converted to Catholicism, he traced part of the motive back to this time when he began to feel that his values had become hollow ones, the values of the meritocracy, of an elite class that simply wanted professional success and moral and other values fell by the wayside. So yeah, it absolutely cost him.

And he later, when he, and we could get to this, when he converted to Catholicism, he traced part of the motive back to this time when he began to feel that his values had become hollow ones, the values of the meritocracy, of an elite class that simply wanted professional success and moral and other values fell by the wayside. So yeah, it absolutely cost him.

And I think the other thing it cost him, Tanya, was the sense of who he had been. Assimilation is a very painful thing, and it requires a kind of remaking of your psyche in order to be acceptable to a new class. And I think that's true of people from all kinds of backgrounds who are not part of a dominant group, and he was not. And so I think resentment of the group that is requiring him to

And I think the other thing it cost him, Tanya, was the sense of who he had been. Assimilation is a very painful thing, and it requires a kind of remaking of your psyche in order to be acceptable to a new class. And I think that's true of people from all kinds of backgrounds who are not part of a dominant group, and he was not. And so I think resentment of the group that is requiring him to

And I think the other thing it cost him, Tanya, was the sense of who he had been. Assimilation is a very painful thing, and it requires a kind of remaking of your psyche in order to be acceptable to a new class. And I think that's true of people from all kinds of backgrounds who are not part of a dominant group, and he was not. And so I think resentment of the group that is requiring him to