Tanya Mosley

the horde nature of it, like transfixed by the blueness and possibility that the ocean gave, that maybe there was an underworld under the deep blue sea where our ancestors found liberation. What was this process like for you imagining what that deep blue sea offered to those during the Middle Passage?

I want to fast forward to modern times. There was this period in the 80s, which was really like close to two decades after the civil rights movement. I'm thinking like the late 80s when it felt like, as you write, progress had stalled. And you called it a time when art took center stage as a way to make meaning. Can you say more about that?

I want to fast forward to modern times. There was this period in the 80s, which was really like close to two decades after the civil rights movement. I'm thinking like the late 80s when it felt like, as you write, progress had stalled. And you called it a time when art took center stage as a way to make meaning. Can you say more about that?

I want to fast forward to modern times. There was this period in the 80s, which was really like close to two decades after the civil rights movement. I'm thinking like the late 80s when it felt like, as you write, progress had stalled. And you called it a time when art took center stage as a way to make meaning. Can you say more about that?

Let's take a short break. My guest today is scholar and author Imani Perry, and we're talking about her new book, Black and Blues, How a Color Tells the Story of My People. We'll continue our conversation after a short break. This is Fresh Air.

Let's take a short break. My guest today is scholar and author Imani Perry, and we're talking about her new book, Black and Blues, How a Color Tells the Story of My People. We'll continue our conversation after a short break. This is Fresh Air.

Let's take a short break. My guest today is scholar and author Imani Perry, and we're talking about her new book, Black and Blues, How a Color Tells the Story of My People. We'll continue our conversation after a short break. This is Fresh Air.

You know, thinking about this time period that we're in, what is it like to be at this moment a professor of studies on women and gender and sexuality and Black American studies at a time when conservatives are fighting against having most, if not all of those things studied at higher education institutions?

You know, thinking about this time period that we're in, what is it like to be at this moment a professor of studies on women and gender and sexuality and Black American studies at a time when conservatives are fighting against having most, if not all of those things studied at higher education institutions?

You know, thinking about this time period that we're in, what is it like to be at this moment a professor of studies on women and gender and sexuality and Black American studies at a time when conservatives are fighting against having most, if not all of those things studied at higher education institutions?

I'd like to, in our conversation on a passage of your book that I feel is so rooted in the present moment, it's page 228, the last paragraph. It starts with an admission.

I'd like to, in our conversation on a passage of your book that I feel is so rooted in the present moment, it's page 228, the last paragraph. It starts with an admission.

I'd like to, in our conversation on a passage of your book that I feel is so rooted in the present moment, it's page 228, the last paragraph. It starts with an admission.

Thank you for reading that, Imani. I mean, I feel like this book is really, this meditation on the color blue has given me more language to understand by existence. So I want to thank you for that. And I also want to know, what has it done for you to spend this time on the color and the sensibility and the sound of blue?

Thank you for reading that, Imani. I mean, I feel like this book is really, this meditation on the color blue has given me more language to understand by existence. So I want to thank you for that. And I also want to know, what has it done for you to spend this time on the color and the sensibility and the sound of blue?

Thank you for reading that, Imani. I mean, I feel like this book is really, this meditation on the color blue has given me more language to understand by existence. So I want to thank you for that. And I also want to know, what has it done for you to spend this time on the color and the sensibility and the sound of blue?

Imani Perry, as always, thank you so much for this thought-provoking conversation.

Imani Perry, as always, thank you so much for this thought-provoking conversation.

Imani Perry, as always, thank you so much for this thought-provoking conversation.

Imani Perry's new book is Black and Blues, How a Color Tells the Story of My People. Tomorrow on Fresh Air, we've been talking a lot about loneliness. Research shows we're spending more time alone than ever. Atlantic writer Derek Thompson joins us to talk about how all of this me time is having a profound impact on our personalities, our politics, and our relationship to reality.