Tanya Mosley

I mean, this really speaks to the time period, too, right? She knew that to have a man's name on it may possibly bring a certain amount of credence, authenticity, like people would take it seriously.

I mean, this really speaks to the time period, too, right? She knew that to have a man's name on it may possibly bring a certain amount of credence, authenticity, like people would take it seriously.

I mean, this really speaks to the time period, too, right? She knew that to have a man's name on it may possibly bring a certain amount of credence, authenticity, like people would take it seriously.

is really how hard it was for women and people of color to hold on and build their intellectual property because the word technology in itself was essentially a synonym for stuff that men do.

is really how hard it was for women and people of color to hold on and build their intellectual property because the word technology in itself was essentially a synonym for stuff that men do.

is really how hard it was for women and people of color to hold on and build their intellectual property because the word technology in itself was essentially a synonym for stuff that men do.

Our guest today is investigative journalist Pagan Kennedy. We're talking about her new book, The Secret History of the Rape Kit, A True Crime Story. We'll be right back. I'm Tanya Mosley, and this is Fresh Air.

Our guest today is investigative journalist Pagan Kennedy. We're talking about her new book, The Secret History of the Rape Kit, A True Crime Story. We'll be right back. I'm Tanya Mosley, and this is Fresh Air.

Our guest today is investigative journalist Pagan Kennedy. We're talking about her new book, The Secret History of the Rape Kit, A True Crime Story. We'll be right back. I'm Tanya Mosley, and this is Fresh Air.

You mentioned some of the things that were in that kit. It's pretty simple. A cardboard box, some test tubes, swabs, glass slides, other stuff like that. How does that kit, that first kit that Marty Goddard and Vitulo put together, how does it compare to what rape kits have in them today?

You mentioned some of the things that were in that kit. It's pretty simple. A cardboard box, some test tubes, swabs, glass slides, other stuff like that. How does that kit, that first kit that Marty Goddard and Vitulo put together, how does it compare to what rape kits have in them today?

You mentioned some of the things that were in that kit. It's pretty simple. A cardboard box, some test tubes, swabs, glass slides, other stuff like that. How does that kit, that first kit that Marty Goddard and Vitulo put together, how does it compare to what rape kits have in them today?

One of the interesting things that you found was Hugh Hefner's Playboy empire, the foundation arm of Playboy, actually helped Marty with her efforts. Can you say more on how Playboy actually played a part in offering a system for dissemination of these kits?

One of the interesting things that you found was Hugh Hefner's Playboy empire, the foundation arm of Playboy, actually helped Marty with her efforts. Can you say more on how Playboy actually played a part in offering a system for dissemination of these kits?

One of the interesting things that you found was Hugh Hefner's Playboy empire, the foundation arm of Playboy, actually helped Marty with her efforts. Can you say more on how Playboy actually played a part in offering a system for dissemination of these kits?

Right. And that funding helped her launch this campaign, pushing hospitals and police departments to collect evidence. So it was basically the dissemination of these rape kits. Hefner, as you mentioned, felt like these kits were about sexual freedom because if women felt safe, then they would be sexually liberated. Right.

Right. And that funding helped her launch this campaign, pushing hospitals and police departments to collect evidence. So it was basically the dissemination of these rape kits. Hefner, as you mentioned, felt like these kits were about sexual freedom because if women felt safe, then they would be sexually liberated. Right.

Right. And that funding helped her launch this campaign, pushing hospitals and police departments to collect evidence. So it was basically the dissemination of these rape kits. Hefner, as you mentioned, felt like these kits were about sexual freedom because if women felt safe, then they would be sexually liberated. Right.

How long did it take for these kids to get out into the world outside of Chicago? Chicago instituted the kids, and then the rest of the country followed suit.

How long did it take for these kids to get out into the world outside of Chicago? Chicago instituted the kids, and then the rest of the country followed suit.