Tanya Mosley

Okay.

So there's this remarkable internal tool called What Is Claude Thinking?

Tell us about it.

Tell us about particularly this banana experiment that they did.

Right.

So what does it mean to say an AI is aware of something?

That actually brings more human attributes to it, that it's conscious of itself.

Okay.

You also talked with a neuroscientist on the team, Jack Lindsay.

He is an LLM skeptic.

Overall, in thinking about these experiments, he says he doesn't think that anything mystical is going on, but he says that Claude's self-awareness has gotten much better in a way that he wasn't expecting.

How do you interpret that?

I was so fascinated among many things that you wrote about, but this emotional texture of how researchers relate to Claude.

It was one of the most revealing threads in your piece.

One of the things that got me was that nobody at Anthropic likes lying to Claude.

And I don't quite know what that even means, but why don't they?

Because it's just software, right?

Why would one feel guilty about deceiving a program?

Yeah.

Right.