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Tanya Mosley

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Fresh Air
Best Of: Fighting for free press in Russia / ‘Fear and Fury’

Fear and Fury tells the story through a small cast of characters, four black teenagers, a white man who decided he was under threat, a media ecosystem that turned fear into profit, and a political system that rewards weaponizing fear.

Fresh Air
Best Of: Fighting for free press in Russia / ‘Fear and Fury’

Three days before Christmas in 1984, the teens, who were from the South Bronx, boarded the subway headed downtown.

Fresh Air
Best Of: Fighting for free press in Russia / ‘Fear and Fury’

They were loud and rambunctious.

Fresh Air
Best Of: Fighting for free press in Russia / ‘Fear and Fury’

One of them asked the white man sitting alone for $5.

Fresh Air
Best Of: Fighting for free press in Russia / ‘Fear and Fury’

That man, Bernard Goetz, stood up, unzipped his jacket, pulled out a gun, and shot all four of them.

Fresh Air
Best Of: Fighting for free press in Russia / ‘Fear and Fury’

In the days that followed, Goetz became a hometown hero.

Fresh Air
Best Of: Fighting for free press in Russia / ‘Fear and Fury’

Tabloids crowned him the Death Wish Vigilante, and he received thousands of fan letters, cash donations, and public praise from everyday New Yorkers to celebrities and powerful media figures who framed him as a man who had done what the city could not.

Fresh Air
Best Of: Fighting for free press in Russia / ‘Fear and Fury’

A jury later acquitted Goetz of everything but carrying an unlicensed gun.

Fresh Air
Best Of: Fighting for free press in Russia / ‘Fear and Fury’

Thompson argues the case marked a political turning point when white racial fear was sanctioned by law and leveraged by elites who learned how useful fear could be.

Fresh Air
Best Of: Fighting for free press in Russia / ‘Fear and Fury’

The book is titled Fear and Fury, the Reagan 80s, the Bernie Goetz shootings, and the rebirth of white rage.

Fresh Air
Best Of: Fighting for free press in Russia / ‘Fear and Fury’

Heather Ann Thompson, welcome to Fresh Air.

Fresh Air
Best Of: Fighting for free press in Russia / ‘Fear and Fury’

I want to start with Bernie Goetz.

Fresh Air
Best Of: Fighting for free press in Russia / ‘Fear and Fury’

He was acquitted of attempted murder for the shootings.

Fresh Air
Best Of: Fighting for free press in Russia / ‘Fear and Fury’

He served less than a year on the gun charge.

Fresh Air
Best Of: Fighting for free press in Russia / ‘Fear and Fury’

And he essentially returned to life in New York.

Fresh Air
Best Of: Fighting for free press in Russia / ‘Fear and Fury’

Right now, he's in his 70s.

Fresh Air
Best Of: Fighting for free press in Russia / ‘Fear and Fury’

He's still living in the city.

Fresh Air
Best Of: Fighting for free press in Russia / ‘Fear and Fury’

He's still giving interviews.

Fresh Air
Best Of: Fighting for free press in Russia / ‘Fear and Fury’

He defends what he did.

Fresh Air
Best Of: Fighting for free press in Russia / ‘Fear and Fury’

But you actually decided not to interview him for this book.