Tanya Mosley

A woman who can control herself is almost as good as a man. How much of your compulsion to have control over your body was also you trying to prove that you were as good or as equal as the men around you?

My guest today is Bailey Williams, a Marine Corps veteran and the author of the new book, Hollow, a memoir of my body in the Marines. We'll be right back after a short break. I'm Tanya Mosley, and this is Fresh Air. This is Fresh Air. I'm Tanya Mosley. And today I'm talking to Bailey Williams, author of the new book, Hollow, a memoir of my body in the Marines.

My guest today is Bailey Williams, a Marine Corps veteran and the author of the new book, Hollow, a memoir of my body in the Marines. We'll be right back after a short break. I'm Tanya Mosley, and this is Fresh Air. This is Fresh Air. I'm Tanya Mosley. And today I'm talking to Bailey Williams, author of the new book, Hollow, a memoir of my body in the Marines.

My guest today is Bailey Williams, a Marine Corps veteran and the author of the new book, Hollow, a memoir of my body in the Marines. We'll be right back after a short break. I'm Tanya Mosley, and this is Fresh Air. This is Fresh Air. I'm Tanya Mosley. And today I'm talking to Bailey Williams, author of the new book, Hollow, a memoir of my body in the Marines.

Williams served for three years in the Marine Corps, where she pushed her body to extremes while suffering from a debilitating eating disorder. At 18, Williams enlisted in the Marine Corps, partly to escape a strict Mormon upbringing. But what she found was an environment similar to the one she grew up in.

Williams served for three years in the Marine Corps, where she pushed her body to extremes while suffering from a debilitating eating disorder. At 18, Williams enlisted in the Marine Corps, partly to escape a strict Mormon upbringing. But what she found was an environment similar to the one she grew up in.

Williams served for three years in the Marine Corps, where she pushed her body to extremes while suffering from a debilitating eating disorder. At 18, Williams enlisted in the Marine Corps, partly to escape a strict Mormon upbringing. But what she found was an environment similar to the one she grew up in.

one that required her to keep secrets about sexual advances and overtures from her superiors and other Marines. Williams was honorably discharged in 2011. She's currently a storyteller and a yoga teacher who lives in Alaska. And I want to give a warning to our listeners. Bailey and I will be talking about disordered eating and sexual assault.

one that required her to keep secrets about sexual advances and overtures from her superiors and other Marines. Williams was honorably discharged in 2011. She's currently a storyteller and a yoga teacher who lives in Alaska. And I want to give a warning to our listeners. Bailey and I will be talking about disordered eating and sexual assault.

one that required her to keep secrets about sexual advances and overtures from her superiors and other Marines. Williams was honorably discharged in 2011. She's currently a storyteller and a yoga teacher who lives in Alaska. And I want to give a warning to our listeners. Bailey and I will be talking about disordered eating and sexual assault.

Bailey, I want to talk about the infamous archetype that you talk about in the book of him and her. And to do this, I want you to read another passage from the book.

Bailey, I want to talk about the infamous archetype that you talk about in the book of him and her. And to do this, I want you to read another passage from the book.

Bailey, I want to talk about the infamous archetype that you talk about in the book of him and her. And to do this, I want you to read another passage from the book.

Thank you for reading that. I mean it sounds like that's a culture that's been set up over time way before you became a part of the Marines. How did you interpret the way your male counterparts viewed you? Did you think that they saw you as equals?

Thank you for reading that. I mean it sounds like that's a culture that's been set up over time way before you became a part of the Marines. How did you interpret the way your male counterparts viewed you? Did you think that they saw you as equals?

Thank you for reading that. I mean it sounds like that's a culture that's been set up over time way before you became a part of the Marines. How did you interpret the way your male counterparts viewed you? Did you think that they saw you as equals?

It's so interesting you say that because when I was reading this, I couldn't help but think like all of these little quips and things that are being said to her, they sound like middle school boys.

It's so interesting you say that because when I was reading this, I couldn't help but think like all of these little quips and things that are being said to her, they sound like middle school boys.

It's so interesting you say that because when I was reading this, I couldn't help but think like all of these little quips and things that are being said to her, they sound like middle school boys.

Some of the things that you heard other women experience in the Marine Corps and some of the things that you experienced, they weren't just snide comments, middle school talk. There was a real sense that you had to guard yourself and your body and kind of work in a real strategic way to not, I mean, just to say it flat out, to not be raped or sexually assaulted.