Tanya Mosley

And you did stand-up for just a short period of time.

Okay, that's a significant amount of time.

Seven years is pretty significant.

That's exactly the amount of time that it takes to really get good, right?

How did you know that you could write?

Really?

All those people, though, are so different.

They're so different in their comedy and their approach.

How did you come to understand the approach to take for everybody?

Like what were you looking for?

What are you looking for when you're working with someone who's – like you're just meeting them and you're trying to understand the thing?

Gary Shandling was like a father to you.

One of the things that, well, the Larry Sanders show was so brilliant.

And one of the things about it is that it satirized, you know, Hollywood and stardom and this need for that type of, like, attention.

And did you guys ever talk about that need?

Like, because there's, like, that need for attention that can never quite be satiated.

Let's take a short break.

If you're just joining us, my guest is filmmaker Judd Apatow.

We're talking about his new visual memoir, Comedy Nerd, a lifelong obsession in stories and pictures.

We'll continue our conversation after a short break.