Tara Brown

You know, the dispute about the photograph captured the headlines.

The former Prince Andrew was...

I was happy to call Virginia a liar, and so was Glenn Maxwell from an interview in jail.

She said she knew she was lying.

What this photograph proved was that they were lying.

Virginia was telling the truth all along.

We now know, in Glenn's own words, she knew that that photograph was the real deal.

I find it, I mean, it's just so sad that Virginia isn't around to see that.

Well, I think it started...

really back when Epstein was a kid living in Brooklyn in Seagate.

What I mean by that is that he somehow was either born with or learned the tools of being able to take a lot of money from seemingly sophisticated investors and businessmen.

He had this ability to part

those businessmen and investors from their money.

And so

The New York Times has done some great work on this, and what they say they've uncovered is a man with an incredible, possibly an unrivaled, ability to lie and driven to be wealthy.

So as you identified, he came from kind of a working-class background.

He didn't go to any special schools or universities, but he had...

this drive to get out of that neighborhood, and he had a drive to be rich, according to people who went to school with him, who overheard him saying, you know, I'm going to be rich one day.

Filthy rich.

They just never guessed that he would be so infamous, or how he would make his money.