Tara Brown

He, you know, was happy to talk to us for a short time on the phone.

And he does accept that his brother did wrong things by

having underage sex or sex with minors, but that he was an interesting guy.

I mean, that was the response to my question.

Do you think he was a good person?

He did wrong, but he was an interesting guy.

Yeah, so Thomas Massey is the co-author of the Epstein Transparency Act,

And so effectively, he and a Democrat congressman made sure that these Epstein files were released.

And that's what the Act essentially and in a very simple way does.

So he was saying, there are all these files and they need to be released.

It was a promise made by Donald Trump to do so.

And Thomas Massey has made sure and is fighting for them to be released.

writing legislation, which is what happened, but making sure that that legislation is adhered to and is really bringing to account the Department of Justice for basically hiding the names of

potential co-conspirators and revealing the names of many of the survivors who wish to remain anonymous.

So you have this, as you'd be aware, this terrible situation where the victims in this case are being exposed and the people accused of hurting them beyond Jeffrey Epstein remain anonymous.

protect it.

So the fight for Thomas Massey goes on.

Yeah, so, I mean, Thomas Massey and his supporters are pushing for those names to be revealed, and they say that in some cases they do know who those people are.

The defence of not revealing their names, in some instances it's... Well, in the case of the naughty one, the suggestion is that that was actually written by a woman, which does not mean that that is not a co-conspirator, but somehow in this...

very confusing way, they've just automatically redacted the author of that email.