Taylor Lorenz

as Kyle mentioned too, like parasocial, this like sort of connection between like parasocial and interactive media.

I cover mostly like a media reporter, but not traditional media.

And so that was interesting to me.

We have also somebody like Ben Rellis, who's this like really famous, like original YouTube executive who like developed a lot of their original like YouTube creator strategy is now working on an AI company, allegedly like doing this type of interactive video.

And so I just think like it was interesting to me and I wanted to like explore it a little more.

Wait, are you real?

It's all the AI.

Unfortunately, I have severe ADHD and I think I'm one of the worst air traffic controllers of all time.

Well, the military has always been actually... I mean, I feel like it's been a while that they've been involved in gaming.

I mean, even back in the 2000s, they released America's Army, which was one of the first popular free web shooting...

first-person shooter games, I guess.

And they famously operated, like, didn't they have their own gaming crew or something?

Like, they had their own esports team, the US Army esports team that was operating on Twitch for a while as well.

I think we're seeing a lot of tech nostalgia.

I was actually, I have this like Google doc where I just save tweets that I've started saving recently about like people nostalgic for 2010s technology and saying like, we should have stopped here, this, you know, peaked here with the clearer phones, you know, in 2004 or whatever.

I think it just goes back to kind of the, what we were originally talking about at the beginning of the show, people getting exhausted and resentful of this current tech

landscape and wanting to go back to a world before then.

Of course, there was a massive moral panic about technology at that time as well.

It's kind of funny to look back at how quaint it was.

It always is to look back.