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There's been other chatter that Lee Zeldin, Lee Zeldin has also been a guest on this podcast.

He's the administrator of the EPA.

Well, listen, Lee has done a very effective job at EPA.

And by the way, it is hard to do the job of head of the EPA if you're not a lawyer, because it's dense and complicated laws and regulations and understanding it.

And Lee's been really effective in the regulatory reform agenda and in pulling back the job killing regulations that did so much damage under the Biden administration.

And I suspect that's one reason I haven't had this conversation with President Trump.

But I suspect that's one reason why he's considering Lee is because he's very, very effective in a complicated, difficult cabinet position.

Now, DOJ is qualitatively different.

And listen, I'll say, as for me, you know, in the first Trump administration.

I talked to the president quite seriously about possibly being AG.

And in Trump won, I went in and spent about four and a half hours in Trump Tower the week after the election in November 2016.

And I had a conversation with him on a number of fronts.

And I made what I would say would be a half-hearted play for AG.

What I told him at the time is I said, listen, I recognized back then that I was pretty late on the train.

And I said, there are others like Jeff Sessions or Giuliani or Christie.

If they want to be AG, you probably should give it to them.

But if you wanted to talk to me about this, I'd be willing to have that conversation.

We did talk about it.

We had a good conversation.

The president made the decision to go with Jeff Sessions.