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And so I think saying the two sides are kind of both too extreme.

I don't think that describes where the policy debate is.

Now, I will concede this on the rhetoric.

There is a fair point to be made that both sides can use overheated rhetoric.

I think the Democrats do so routinely when they call ICE, for example, Nazis and Gestapo, and they call for doxing and going after the families of law enforcement officers.

I mean, I think that's grotesque.

But there are Republicans who use overheated rhetoric as well, and I wish they did not.

You know, I get that question a lot as I travel around Texas and around the country.

And I say, listen, I don't have the ability to change the language other people use.

I can control what I say.

You know, Ben, you and me in Verdict, I try not to demonize people personally.

But I do try to talk about policies and say it is an objectively unreasonable policy to support open borders and to just take away the paychecks of law enforcement officers forever.

And that is the position of the Democrat Party.

I think that's the way we ought to have political discussions on substance and merits rather than making it personal.

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Well, it is fantastic news.

The TSA agents are going to be paid.

We should see the chaos at the airport subside.

I hope it subsides very quickly.