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Teddy Atlas

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

Tyson, he recognized the moment, he understood this was an audition, this was a chance, You know, this was that TV show, Change Your Life. And he understood that if he passed the audition, he could possibly change his life. He wasn't sure what. How could he be sure what exactly? But it was better than what he had. And so he was on audition. So he wanted, he innately understood what we wanted.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

would wanna see, ferociousness, toughness, character, desire, and of course, ability. Well, we saw the ability, power, speed, but it was unbridled, it was untaught, it was raw. He didn't know really much at all, but we saw that. But he wanted to show more. He knew that wasn't enough. Again, innate intelligence. He had to show desire. He had to show toughness. And so I was being responsible.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

would wanna see, ferociousness, toughness, character, desire, and of course, ability. Well, we saw the ability, power, speed, but it was unbridled, it was untaught, it was raw. He didn't know really much at all, but we saw that. But he wanted to show more. He knew that wasn't enough. Again, innate intelligence. He had to show desire. He had to show toughness. And so I was being responsible.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

would wanna see, ferociousness, toughness, character, desire, and of course, ability. Well, we saw the ability, power, speed, but it was unbridled, it was untaught, it was raw. He didn't know really much at all, but we saw that. But he wanted to show more. He knew that wasn't enough. Again, innate intelligence. He had to show desire. He had to show toughness. And so I was being responsible.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

After two rounds, that's enough. Normally, I don't put a guy into boxing until maybe four months, five months, six months, eight months, ten months. It depends what it takes to learn on the floor before it's responsible to put him in the ring to actually take on incoming real live shells instead of blanks. And... So normally I wouldn't have him in.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

After two rounds, that's enough. Normally, I don't put a guy into boxing until maybe four months, five months, six months, eight months, ten months. It depends what it takes to learn on the floor before it's responsible to put him in the ring to actually take on incoming real live shells instead of blanks. And... So normally I wouldn't have him in.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

After two rounds, that's enough. Normally, I don't put a guy into boxing until maybe four months, five months, six months, eight months, ten months. It depends what it takes to learn on the floor before it's responsible to put him in the ring to actually take on incoming real live shells instead of blanks. And... So normally I wouldn't have him in.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

And I knew after today, he wouldn't be in the ring again if I trained him. I would teach him first, and then he'd get back in in a few months. But for this day, it was the only way it's kind of like, I used to make this analogy and Cuss loved it. He said, what's training a fighter? What do you look for training a fighter, Teddy? You know, he asked me this ridiculous question just to test me.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

And I knew after today, he wouldn't be in the ring again if I trained him. I would teach him first, and then he'd get back in in a few months. But for this day, it was the only way it's kind of like, I used to make this analogy and Cuss loved it. He said, what's training a fighter? What do you look for training a fighter, Teddy? You know, he asked me this ridiculous question just to test me.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

And I knew after today, he wouldn't be in the ring again if I trained him. I would teach him first, and then he'd get back in in a few months. But for this day, it was the only way it's kind of like, I used to make this analogy and Cuss loved it. He said, what's training a fighter? What do you look for training a fighter, Teddy? You know, he asked me this ridiculous question just to test me.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

And I say, it's like going to Macy's. He loved it. I said, it's like going to Macy's window. He goes, what do you mean, Macy's window? You know, cuz was like, boom, boom, boom. So what do you mean Macy's window? Oh, you go to Macy's window and they get the window with everything you want to see. Everything in there. And it looks great. Everything. And yeah. And then what?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

And I say, it's like going to Macy's. He loved it. I said, it's like going to Macy's window. He goes, what do you mean, Macy's window? You know, cuz was like, boom, boom, boom. So what do you mean Macy's window? Oh, you go to Macy's window and they get the window with everything you want to see. Everything in there. And it looks great. Everything. And yeah. And then what?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

And I say, it's like going to Macy's. He loved it. I said, it's like going to Macy's window. He goes, what do you mean, Macy's window? You know, cuz was like, boom, boom, boom. So what do you mean Macy's window? Oh, you go to Macy's window and they get the window with everything you want to see. Everything in there. And it looks great. Everything. And yeah. And then what?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

Well, then you ask what's in the warehouse and they tell you nothing. And cuz says, that's it. That's a trainer. And I wanted to see what was in the warehouse. Because I saw what was in Macy's window. I saw the power. I saw the speed. So he goes two rounds, and he gets a bloody nose. Here's the weird thing. Not weird. Very telling. We knew what we were doing.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

Well, then you ask what's in the warehouse and they tell you nothing. And cuz says, that's it. That's a trainer. And I wanted to see what was in the warehouse. Because I saw what was in Macy's window. I saw the power. I saw the speed. So he goes two rounds, and he gets a bloody nose. Here's the weird thing. Not weird. Very telling. We knew what we were doing.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

Well, then you ask what's in the warehouse and they tell you nothing. And cuz says, that's it. That's a trainer. And I wanted to see what was in the warehouse. Because I saw what was in Macy's window. I saw the power. I saw the speed. So he goes two rounds, and he gets a bloody nose. Here's the weird thing. Not weird. Very telling. We knew what we were doing.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

Not bragging, but we knew what we were doing. Because he got a bloody nose because he got hit. After that bloody, he never got another bloody nose. You know why? He didn't get hit. Because he learned. He was still strong, but he was smarter now. Anyway, he goes two rounds, and I saw, and I'm being responsible, because if he goes more, it's not responsible. I saw what I needed to see.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

Not bragging, but we knew what we were doing. Because he got a bloody nose because he got hit. After that bloody, he never got another bloody nose. You know why? He didn't get hit. Because he learned. He was still strong, but he was smarter now. Anyway, he goes two rounds, and I saw, and I'm being responsible, because if he goes more, it's not responsible. I saw what I needed to see.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

Not bragging, but we knew what we were doing. Because he got a bloody nose because he got hit. After that bloody, he never got another bloody nose. You know why? He didn't get hit. Because he learned. He was still strong, but he was smarter now. Anyway, he goes two rounds, and I saw, and I'm being responsible, because if he goes more, it's not responsible. I saw what I needed to see.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

I saw speed, I saw power, I saw athleticism. And I saw, I didn't believe him. I thought he was lying to me. I'm just telling you. I thought he was lying, trying to act tough when he wasn't really feeling tough. It didn't matter. Cuz questioned me on it afterwards. What did you see? And when I said, he goes, young master. You know, again, he wasn't paying me money.