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Teddy Atlas

👤 Speaker
927 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

I don't know if there was ever as good a fighter as Tyson was where maybe one night he was great when he wasn't tested, but he might have been ready to be tested that one night against Michael Spinks when he took him apart in 90 seconds. I think I saw a great fighter that night. I don't think you can be great unless you have all the requirements of being great.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

To not rely to be strong on your own. Too often he relied on other people's weakness, whether it's by being intimidated or whether it's because his talent was so much greater than theirs that it was like putting a monster truck in there with a Volkswagen, and the Volkswagen was going to get crushed.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

To not rely to be strong on your own. Too often he relied on other people's weakness, whether it's by being intimidated or whether it's because his talent was so much greater than theirs that it was like putting a monster truck in there with a Volkswagen, and the Volkswagen was going to get crushed.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

To not rely to be strong on your own. Too often he relied on other people's weakness, whether it's by being intimidated or whether it's because his talent was so much greater than theirs that it was like putting a monster truck in there with a Volkswagen, and the Volkswagen was going to get crushed.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

No matter how much horsepower the Volkswagen might have had under the hood and you put under the hood, it was going to get crushed. The monster truck was not going to allow it to be a contest. to be able to find a way when your talent wasn't enough. He didn't find a way when his talent wasn't enough.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

No matter how much horsepower the Volkswagen might have had under the hood and you put under the hood, it was going to get crushed. The monster truck was not going to allow it to be a contest. to be able to find a way when your talent wasn't enough. He didn't find a way when his talent wasn't enough.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

No matter how much horsepower the Volkswagen might have had under the hood and you put under the hood, it was going to get crushed. The monster truck was not going to allow it to be a contest. to be able to find a way when your talent wasn't enough. He didn't find a way when his talent wasn't enough.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

And I'm not making statements if I'm not ready to put some evidence, you know, like if we were in a courtroom, exhibit A, when he fought Buster Douglas, Buster Douglas matched his will and didn't get intimidated, stood up to him. He didn't do what most people did. He didn't submit even a little bit. Not that night. He had in the past, but that night he didn't. Why?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

And I'm not making statements if I'm not ready to put some evidence, you know, like if we were in a courtroom, exhibit A, when he fought Buster Douglas, Buster Douglas matched his will and didn't get intimidated, stood up to him. He didn't do what most people did. He didn't submit even a little bit. Not that night. He had in the past, but that night he didn't. Why?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

And I'm not making statements if I'm not ready to put some evidence, you know, like if we were in a courtroom, exhibit A, when he fought Buster Douglas, Buster Douglas matched his will and didn't get intimidated, stood up to him. He didn't do what most people did. He didn't submit even a little bit. Not that night. He had in the past, but that night he didn't. Why?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

Because Buster had a secret weapon that night, his mother. Buster's mother had died a few months previous. He loved his mother very much. Buster had always had talent, big heavyweight, talented, could punch, technically solid. It was all those things. Always was. But he quit in fights. He did less than he should have done. He never lived up to his ability. He gave in. He submitted.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

Because Buster had a secret weapon that night, his mother. Buster's mother had died a few months previous. He loved his mother very much. Buster had always had talent, big heavyweight, talented, could punch, technically solid. It was all those things. Always was. But he quit in fights. He did less than he should have done. He never lived up to his ability. He gave in. He submitted.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

Because Buster had a secret weapon that night, his mother. Buster's mother had died a few months previous. He loved his mother very much. Buster had always had talent, big heavyweight, talented, could punch, technically solid. It was all those things. Always was. But he quit in fights. He did less than he should have done. He never lived up to his ability. He gave in. He submitted.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

He wasn't strong enough. He never had a reason to be strong enough. When his mother died, he had a reason. Nothing could hurt him as much as his mother dying hurt him, Mike Tyson included. That night, Mike Tyson could not hurt him as much as his mother had hurt him by dying. That night, he had a reason to be strong for his mother, and he was strong. He was everything he was supposed to be.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

He wasn't strong enough. He never had a reason to be strong enough. When his mother died, he had a reason. Nothing could hurt him as much as his mother dying hurt him, Mike Tyson included. That night, Mike Tyson could not hurt him as much as his mother had hurt him by dying. That night, he had a reason to be strong for his mother, and he was strong. He was everything he was supposed to be.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

He wasn't strong enough. He never had a reason to be strong enough. When his mother died, he had a reason. Nothing could hurt him as much as his mother dying hurt him, Mike Tyson included. That night, Mike Tyson could not hurt him as much as his mother had hurt him by dying. That night, he had a reason to be strong for his mother, and he was strong. He was everything he was supposed to be.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

And more. And he stood up to Mike. And Mike, for the first time, maybe ever, was in a fight where he had to overcome something. Where he had to be more than talented. More than a puncher. More than a guy with scintillating speed. And he wasn't. And then that night got followed by another night with Holyfield. Holyfield wasn't as talented as him. As big as a puncher.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

And more. And he stood up to Mike. And Mike, for the first time, maybe ever, was in a fight where he had to overcome something. Where he had to be more than talented. More than a puncher. More than a guy with scintillating speed. And he wasn't. And then that night got followed by another night with Holyfield. Holyfield wasn't as talented as him. As big as a puncher.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

And more. And he stood up to Mike. And Mike, for the first time, maybe ever, was in a fight where he had to overcome something. Where he had to be more than talented. More than a puncher. More than a guy with scintillating speed. And he wasn't. And then that night got followed by another night with Holyfield. Holyfield wasn't as talented as him. As big as a puncher.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#406 – Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D’Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness

But Holyfield had the character. He was strong in ways that Tyson wasn't strong. He was strong in a way where he could find a way. He was willing to find a way. He's willing to go to the cliff. to truly die before he's submitted. You know, a lot of stuff is just words. They're going to have to carry me out on a shield. Yeah, sure, okay. Yeah, until it comes time to be carried out on a shield.