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Terence Tao

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
3115 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

And again, still missing things like he didn't know the mechanism for hereditary DNA.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

Yeah, but his writing style was persuasive and that helped a lot.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

Newton wrote in Latin.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

He had invented entire new areas of mathematics just to explain what he was doing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

He was also from an era where scientists were much more secretive and competitive.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

So academia is still competitive, but it was even worse back in Newton's day.

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Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

So he held back some of his best insights because he didn't want his rivals to get any advantage.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

He was also actually somewhat unpleasant person from what I gather actually.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

So it was actually only a couple of decades after Newton where other scientists explained his work in much simpler terms that they became widespread.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

So yeah, the art of exposition and making a case and creating a narrative is also a very important part of science.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

If you have the data, it helps, but people need to be convinced.

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Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

Otherwise, they will not push it further or they will not take initial investment to learn your theory and really explore it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

And that's another thing which is really hard to reinforce and learn on.

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Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

How can you score how persuasive you are?

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Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

Well, there's the entire marketing departments who are trying to do this.

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Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

So maybe it's good that AI are not yet optimized to be persuasive.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

So, yeah, there's a social aspect to science.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

Even though we pride ourselves on having an objective side to it, where there's data and there's experiment and validation, we still have to tell stories and convince our fellow scientists.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

And that's a soft, squishy thing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

It's a combination of data and...