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Terence Tao

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
3115 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

And we've standardized it and we've built all our computers and a number of representation systems around it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

And so we're stuck with it now, actually.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

Some people occasionally push for other systems than decimal,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

There's too much inertia.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

So you can't look at any given scientific achievement purely in isolation and give it an objective grade without being aware of the context, both in the past and the future.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

And so it may never be something that you can just reinforce and learn the same way that you can for much sort of more localized problems.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

Often, actually, the ultimately correct theory initially is worse in many ways.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

Copernicus's theory of the planets, it was less accurate than Thomley's theory.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

Geocentrism had been developed for a millennium by that point, and they had many, many tweaks and very increasingly complicated ad hoc fixes to make it more and more accurate.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

And Copernicus' theory was a lot simpler, but much less accurate.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

It was only Kepler that made it more accurate than Thomley's theory.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

I mean, science is always a work in progress.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

So when you only get part of the solution, it looks worse than a theory which is incorrect, but somehow has been completed to the point where it kind of answers all the questions.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

As you say, Newton's theory had big mysteries, the equivalence of mass and action at distance, which were only resolved with a very conceptually different approach centuries afterwards.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

often progress has to be made not by adding more theories, but by deleting some assumptions that you have in your mind.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

So one reason why geocentrism held on for so long is we had this idea that objects naturally want to stay at rest.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

This is the Aristotelian notion of physics.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

And so the idea that the Earth was moving, how come we weren't all falling over?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

you know, once you have Newton's motion, you know, object motion remains in motion and so forth, then it makes sense.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

But you had to, so conceptually, it's a very big conceptual leap to realize that the Earth is in motion.