Terence Winter
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107 appearances
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1 series
first heard May 2025
last heard May 2025
Terence Winter’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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Harry Daugherty, Warren Harding, that whole administration was just like, you know, you can't. And that's another thing that just surprised me about the era. You know, again, it's, you know, the idea of corrupt politicians. These guys were selling shit right out of the White House.
I mean, you literally, you know, there were bootleggers who were showing up at the Capitol with suitcases full of stuff, selling it, you know, selling their stuff to congresspeople. And like you could buy anything you wanted from Harry Daugherty and his guy, Jess Smith. And just another fascinating relationship. So.
Yeah. And a real guy. Right. Yeah, I mean, the more we would research this, the more incredible it became. Another detail, too. Al Capone's brother, one of his brothers, moved out to the West and became a sheriff. And he was like a cowboy sheriff who would arrest bootleggers. Yeah. And we're like, we've got to get this on the show. And we could never work it in.
But it's like just these little odds and ends. You're like, holy shit, this actually was real.
Or George Ramis, too, another one, like one of the craziest stories you hear about, like an incredibly successful defense attorney becomes like the biggest bootlegger ever and then loses everything, goes to jail, and then his wife dies. Completely steals all of his money in conjunction with a federal agent who she has an affair with.
And then he gets out of jail and then murders her and then is found not guilty by reason of insanity. He represented himself with a temporary insanity plea. And it's like, if I made that up, you'd be like, come on. And this absolutely all happened.
Yeah, he's like, yeah, why would you think you'd have to do that? But, yeah, I mean, I guess it's the same principle now. Like, you go, okay, well, I don't care how you earned your money. Even if it's illegal, you still have to pay taxes on it. Yeah, exactly. And that's, I guess, how they get, you know, they get Al Capone, you know, for tax evasion.
It's like, I know you said you were a furniture salesman, but you've got a million dollars here, so okay. Yeah.
I'm not a victim, I'm a survivor.
So I have to assume formulas two through five were varying degrees of how bad is this going to be? Formula 4 is like diarrhea. That's not enough. We've got to really get blisters. Formula 5 knocks you out for like a week. Yeah, exactly. Formula 6, you're dead. Formula 6, you're not drinking anymore.
So, you know, I was very aware of the fact that bootleggers would incorporate, sometime it got to the point where they'd mix turpentine, they'd mix wood alcohol, you know, all of which, you know, into their shitty, you know, home manufactured stuff. And that was killing people and making people blind. Sure. There was a rash of people who went blind.
I think it was in New York City, like 18 people over the course of a weekend who all drank the same bootleg alcohol. I'm wondering now if was that some of the stuff that the government was actually now sneaking into the criminal, like how were people getting government poisoned liquor?
Formaldehyde too, is when we actually did that on the show, actually showing somebody using it and anything. And it's interesting too, like this is the, people don't realize like the advent of the mixed drink came because of prohibition because the bootleg alcohol was so vile, they had to start mixing it with fruit juices and stuff.
So all this stuff that we know today, you know, up until prohibition, it was, you know, straight whiskey, beer, you know, it was just straight alcohol.
You know, and you do you just drank it to get drunk quickly, I guess. I don't know. There's a lot of sipping going on. But it was, you know, suddenly all the drinks that you hear about today, you know, are, you know, come from the need to make this stuff palatable. And what killed me, too, is I love the details, the lengths bootleggers would go to in terms of.
creating false labels, getting the bottle, filling it up with alcohol. There was one detail that blew my mind that they would create a whole false crate of alcohol, put them in fishing nets, like a bunch of them, and then take the fishing nets and dunk it in the water, leave it in seawater for a couple of hours and come out.
You know, you dump this big fishing net full of crates that say Johnny Walker or whatever it was, and there's still seaweed on it. And you go, nobody would ever think you've fake this, but the lengths they would go to to make stuff that was fake look real. You know, wow. I mean, and that appealed to the con man in me. I go, wow, what a brilliant little touch. You can still smell the salt water.
It's obviously came out of off a boat in the ocean. Yeah, no, that's made in some guy's garage.
But yeah, it's like, wow, that's, that's, you know, and that's, I think what people don't realize that criminals, 24 hours a day is people thinking about how to do this shit. You know, it's pretty, pretty incredible. And even the hypocrisy too, I'm thinking like, as you were talking, you know, the whole, the Catholic church, you know, it's sacrificial wine. Sure. Suddenly...
They had unbelievable demand for sacrificial wine. And the Jewish churches suddenly, you know, everybody was a rabbi because there was an exclusion. Like you could do it for religious things or doctors. How many doctors were running prescriptions?
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