Terry Gross

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I'm Terry Gross.

I think it's fair to say your first big break, correct me if I'm wrong, was when you had recorded a demo.

And the songwriters Ellie Greenwich and Jeff Barry heard the demo and they really liked you.

And some of their songs are Do Do Run Run, Chapel of Love.

Be My Baby.

Be My Baby, yeah.

So how did they hear you?

In the first session that you did with them, you recorded Solitary Man.

Did you like the idea of horns on this?

Well, let's hear Solitary Man, which I have to say, I think it's really a terrific recording.