Terry Gross

If you're just joining us, my guest is Antonia Hitchens.

She's a staff writer for The New Yorker, and her latest article is called Laura Loomer's Endless Payback.

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What's it like to talk with her?

You spent many hours talking with her.

Or is that too personal for her that you don't want to talk about it?

I'm just wondering if it offered any insights into her lifestyle or personality.

One of her four dogs she named Loomer.

It sounds a little odd for Laura Loomer to have a dog she named Loomer and have to say, like, sit, Loomer, or whatever she says to the dog.

Do you know why she named her dog Loomer?

So one of Laura Loomer's platforms now is her show on Rumble, which is called Laura Loomer Unleashed.

And her shows start in a very unusual way.

Like one episode that I was watching had an over 20-minute long section at the very beginning with the caption, Do you have any insights into why her show starts...

with a standby for over 20 minutes where all you see is images of her at home and in various places.

Like, why not start the show when the actual show starts?

Were you surprised that Loomer agreed to be profiled by you for The New Yorker, which she may perceive as a very liberal publication?

Antonia Hitchens, thank you so much for talking to us.

I learned so much from your article.