Terry Gross

So they decide finally to hold a big funeral and like tens of thousands of people show up.

Your series made me think about how art in some ways has a lot more power in authoritarian governments that want to ban art.

Because when something is taboo and you're not allowed to hear it, creating it and hearing it are very subversive acts.

Yeah.

Like in America, in the U.S., we're maybe heading in that direction.

Well, it's been great to talk with you, Jed.

Thank you so much and congratulations on the series.

And I want to say to our listeners, we covered several aspects of Fela's life in this interview, but there's really so much more and so much fascinating detail that we couldn't possibly fit into one less than an hour episode when Jed's series is, what, 12 episodes?

To me, certainly.

So thank you so much.

It's been a pleasure to talk with you again.

Jad Abumrad's new podcast is called Fela Kuti, Fear No Man.

After we take a short break, we reluctantly say goodbye to our long-term executive producer, Danny Miller.

He's retiring.

This is Fresh Air.

Today marks a turning point in Fresh Air history.

Our longtime executive producer Danny Miller is retiring.

We've been celebrating how he's led the show through good times and hard times and what he's done professionally and personally for each of us who's ever been part of the Fresh Air team.

But we're all so sad he's leaving.

I'd like to take a moment to speak personally about what Danny means to me.