Terry Houin

So I got to call the mass chief of Warcom, like my senior E9 that I work for. I'm like, hey. Chief, this is what's going on. He's like, well, what do you want to do? I'm like, well, right now they're not even in NSW yet, right? They haven't gone to BUDS yet. They're still in the Navy. I'm like, if we were preaching character and integrity, in my right mind, I can't let these guys go.

Like, it's just not the right thing to do, especially at this level. Like, they've been in the Navy for, like, four weeks or whatever. Like, if we're letting them go with, like, basic entirety shit from here, it's like, we can't do it. So it's, like, fucking miserable, like, signing, like... kicking 44 kids out of this class. I'm like, one by one, I've got to have.

Like, it's just not the right thing to do, especially at this level. Like, they've been in the Navy for, like, four weeks or whatever. Like, if we're letting them go with, like, basic entirety shit from here, it's like, we can't do it. So it's, like, fucking miserable, like, signing, like... kicking 44 kids out of this class. I'm like, one by one, I've got to have.

Like, it's just not the right thing to do, especially at this level. Like, they've been in the Navy for, like, four weeks or whatever. Like, if we're letting them go with, like, basic entirety shit from here, it's like, we can't do it. So it's, like, fucking miserable, like, signing, like... kicking 44 kids out of this class. I'm like, one by one, I've got to have.

I was like, started with like typical class would start about 200 or so. That's the SEALs or the SEAL candidates, the SWCC candidates. We would have a handful of fleet returnees that are going or maybe a couple of transfer, like Marine guys that are going to go to BUDS. So every enlisted guy that went to BUDS at that point came through that schoolhouse. So roughly 200 or so.

I was like, started with like typical class would start about 200 or so. That's the SEALs or the SEAL candidates, the SWCC candidates. We would have a handful of fleet returnees that are going or maybe a couple of transfer, like Marine guys that are going to go to BUDS. So every enlisted guy that went to BUDS at that point came through that schoolhouse. So roughly 200 or so.

I was like, started with like typical class would start about 200 or so. That's the SEALs or the SEAL candidates, the SWCC candidates. We would have a handful of fleet returnees that are going or maybe a couple of transfer, like Marine guys that are going to go to BUDS. So every enlisted guy that went to BUDS at that point came through that schoolhouse. So roughly 200 or so.

So typically we only lose like eight to 10 max.

So typically we only lose like eight to 10 max.

So typically we only lose like eight to 10 max.

on a like a big class for the pre for buds yeah i mean the attrition rate for buds is i don't think it's changed much like one percent maybe it's like it's still 80 of the kids aren't making it through when you went through versus when you're an instructor were the class sizes different or were they was like yeah smaller i think i think we started my first phase with 120 ish somewhere in that ballpark and

on a like a big class for the pre for buds yeah i mean the attrition rate for buds is i don't think it's changed much like one percent maybe it's like it's still 80 of the kids aren't making it through when you went through versus when you're an instructor were the class sizes different or were they was like yeah smaller i think i think we started my first phase with 120 ish somewhere in that ballpark and

on a like a big class for the pre for buds yeah i mean the attrition rate for buds is i don't think it's changed much like one percent maybe it's like it's still 80 of the kids aren't making it through when you went through versus when you're an instructor were the class sizes different or were they was like yeah smaller i think i think we started my first phase with 120 ish somewhere in that ballpark and

We graduated 22, 21, 22, and 14 of those were the original class that didn't get rolled back. So now they're starting like 180 to 200. I don't know what it is now, but it's much higher numbers.

We graduated 22, 21, 22, and 14 of those were the original class that didn't get rolled back. So now they're starting like 180 to 200. I don't know what it is now, but it's much higher numbers.

We graduated 22, 21, 22, and 14 of those were the original class that didn't get rolled back. So now they're starting like 180 to 200. I don't know what it is now, but it's much higher numbers.

When I go back 20 years later as an instructor or observer, I'm like, it is scripted to the second. Like, okay, we're going to have the guys in the water at this time. It's 52 degrees. The wind is this. They can only be in the water for 68 seconds. It's like down to the second. I don't know shit. As a student going through, and you don't know this, like, yeah. They can't kill me? No. Yeah.

When I go back 20 years later as an instructor or observer, I'm like, it is scripted to the second. Like, okay, we're going to have the guys in the water at this time. It's 52 degrees. The wind is this. They can only be in the water for 68 seconds. It's like down to the second. I don't know shit. As a student going through, and you don't know this, like, yeah. They can't kill me? No. Yeah.

When I go back 20 years later as an instructor or observer, I'm like, it is scripted to the second. Like, okay, we're going to have the guys in the water at this time. It's 52 degrees. The wind is this. They can only be in the water for 68 seconds. It's like down to the second. I don't know shit. As a student going through, and you don't know this, like, yeah. They can't kill me? No. Yeah.

But no, but for that one, it was that kid had been taking stuff that he shouldn't have taken. And it was a whole lot of other stuff that was self-induced. And anyway, Navy tried to pin it on some guys, but it, yeah. Anyway, it's a big story that I don't want to get in details. I don't want to know all the details too much.